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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 01 July 21 16:44 BST (UK) »
Well, in 1909 Caroline already was Mrs Wilson of course....

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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 01 July 21 16:53 BST (UK) »
Palomino reply #26. I suspected "Thomas Wilson" may have been an error for Thomas Watts. It was a transcription on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks. If it's a transcription error and the surname of Thomas was Watts in the original register you can notify the LAN-OPC Swinton person from Swinton home page.
So Caroline became a Catholic at St. Mary Immaculate in March 1909 and had her children baptised there in April.   
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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 01 July 21 17:41 BST (UK) »
Walter had 7 bro's and sis's. All born 1870-1890 in Newchurch amd Bacup. Not a single parish record (baptism or marriage)...

You can see lists of churches in specific areas on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks and GEN UKI with foundation years and dates of registers for some.
e.g. www.lan-opc.org.uk/Rossendale/Newchurch/index.html

GEN UKI Uk & Ireland Genealogy
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/NewchurchinRossendale
You can search for churches within a chosen radius. Result is a map with coloured markers according to denomination. Selecting a marker shows name of church; clicking on marker brings up more information.

Walter married at St. Saviour, Bacup 1898. Have you looked for marriages of his siblings on Lancashire BMD? If their marriages are on it the church will be named if they married in Anglican churches. If they married in churches of other denominations the index will say "Registry Office or Registrar Attended".

Have you found any burials?
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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 01 August 21 12:06 BST (UK) »
siblings' marriages:
WILSON   Wilfred   ROTHWELL   Emma Jane   1907   Bacup, Christ Church   Preston   CE23/3/241

WILSON   James Ashworth   RUSHWORTH   Amy Ellen   1906   Rochdale Register Office or Registrar Attended   Rochdale   RM/122/77

WILSON   Margaret Alice   HARDMAN   David Nuttall   1909   Bacup, Wesleyan Methodist   Preston   ACC-CL10/1/47

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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 01 August 21 13:52 BST (UK) »
burials
Burial: 9 May 1932 Cemetery, Bacup, Lancashire, England
Wilfred Wilson - Age: 55  Abode: Bacup   Occupation: Warehouseman     Grave: A86

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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 18 November 21 11:20 GMT (UK) »
I am still looking for further proof / documents abouts George's (year of) birth and his parents.

My next step will be to focus on the Wilson families in Clitheroe and Whalley, building up esp. on Maiden Stone's preliminary work (thank you!). And to consider the family's relation to the Catholic church.


Let me sum up what I ve gathered so far:


WILSON George, b about 1806 Clitheroe (due to marriage cert), d after 1855, shoemaker
Banns: St Mary and All Saints, Whalley, Lancashire AND St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe
m 20 Oct 1838 St. Mary Magdalena, Clitheroe, Lancs,
Witnesses William Backhouse (Alice's brother-in-law) and Mary Warbrick (Alice's sister)
   Full Age Shoemaker Bachelor of Parish of Whalley
   Groom's Father: John Wilson, Miller
   Full Age Widow of Clitheroe
WARBRICK Alice, b  May 1816 Heysham, Lancs,
   bur 6 Sep 1855 (as "Wife of George Wilson"), Bridleway, Newchurch, Lancs
   Alice's 1st marriage:
      17th January 1835 St. Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe
      Ralph COTTAM, Alice (S)WARBRICK

children:
David WILSON - [Child] of George Wilson and Alice, (1839-1841)
Baptism: 21 Jul 1839 St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
Born: 30 Jun 1839
Abode: Low Moor
Occupation: Shoemaker
Burial: 27 Feb 1841 St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
David Wilson, Age: 18 mos., Abode: Lowmoor

Mary WILSON - [Child] of George Wilson and Alice, (1840- bef 1851)
Baptism: 16 Jan 1841 St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
Born: 16 Dec 1840
Abode: Clitheroe
Occupation: Shoemaker

Harriet WILSON - [Child] of George Wilson and Alice
Baptism: 12 May 1844 St Paul, Farington, Lancashire, England
Abode: Farington
Occupation: Shoemaker

Moses WILSON (1846 -1914)
no bapt found
GRO Reference: 1846  M Quarter in THE PRESTON UNION  Volume 21  Page 678
mother's maidenname: COTTAM and WARBRICK are registered

Emma WILSON - [Child] of George Wilson and Alice , (1850-1891)
Baptism: 28 Apr 1850 St Paul, Farington, Lancashire, England
Abode: Farington
Occupation: Shoemaker

David WILSON - [Child] of George Wilson and Alice (1852 - 1919)
Baptism: 6 Jun 1852 St Paul, Farington, Lancashire, England
Abode: Farington
Occupation: Shoemaker

Census 1841, Alice Wilson (26 yrs), Mary Wilson (6 mth) Clitheroe
Census 1851, George Wilson (45 yrs), Alice Wilson (39 yrs), Moses Wilson (6 yrs), Ellen Warbrick (48 yrs) Farington  (and others)
Census 1861 Ellen Warbrick (61 yrs), Moses (14 yrs) and David (9 yrs) Wilson, Haslingden Newchurch

Son:
WILSON David, b 23 May 1852 Farington, Preston, Lancs, d 26 Jun 1919 Bacup, Lancs
    m 16 Dec 1871 Hyndburn Bridge, Lancs
ASHWORTH Esther Mary, b 30 Oct 1852 Scout, Newchurch, Lancs, d 9 Mar1908 Bacup Lancs
   bapt not found (daughter of James Ashworth 1821-1886 and Margaret Ormerod 1826-1898)



Son of David and Esther Mary:
WILSON Walter, b 11 Oct 1874 Newchurch, Lans, d 11 Oct 1948 (not sure) Sheffield, Yorkshire West Riding
    m Q3 1898 St Saviours, Bacup, Haslingden, Lancs
WATTS Caroline b 23 Apr 1877, Rawmarsh, Yorkshire,
   daughter of Thomas Watts and Sarah Jane Watts (former Roebuck)
   bapt 21 Sep 1880 St Mary the Virgin, Rawmarsh
   bapt 25 Mar 1909 St Mary Of The Immaculate Conception, Swinton, Lancs

   Walter had 7 siblings, all born 1870-1890 in Newchurch amd Bacup. I couldn't find any baptism
      record ...
   e.g.
   WILSON Herbert Willi (b Apr 1872 Newchurch)
   WILSON Wilfred  (b 1877 Stacksteads, Newchurch,
       m ROTHWELL Emma Jane, 1907 Bacup, Christ Church, Preston, CE23/3/  241),
      burial 9 May 1932 Cemetery, Bacup, Lancs
   WILSON James Ashworth (b 26 Apr 1883 Bacup,
      m RUSHWORTH Amy Ellen 1906 Rochdale Register Office RM/122/77)
   WILSON Margaret Alice (b 1886 Bacup, m HARDMAN David Nuttall 1909 Bacup,
      Wesleyan Methodist Preston ACC-CL10/1/47 (=> Manchester archive))

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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 05 December 21 01:34 GMT (UK) »
According to the banns read at both St Mary and All Saints, Whalley and St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe

George Wilson was living at Whalley and Ann Cottam living at Clitheroe

banns read  23rd Sept, 30th Sept and 7th October.
Ashton Lancashire
Eccles Lancashire
Fletcher Lancashire
Harwood Church/Darwen
Jackson Staffordhire/Worcestershire
Jenkinson Cockerham
Marsden Hoghton Lancashire
Mercer Lancashire/Yorkshire
Pye Wyresdale
Singleton Lancashire
Swarbrick  Longridge
Watt Scotland/Lancashire

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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 05 December 21 13:40 GMT (UK) »

I ve found some trees which name as George's parents:
John Wilson (16 nov 1781 in Clitheroe - 1868 in Clitheroe)
Ann/Anne Hyde/Hide (about 1781 in Bailey - 2 jan 1865 in Clithero)


Birthplace for Ann may be Barley, a village a few miles east of Clitheroe.


A change of mind about my suggestion that Ann's birthplace Bailey may have been Barley.

Aighton, Bailey and Chaigley, 3 hamlets which made up a township in the parish of Mitton. 4 miles NNW of Whalley, around 5 miles WSW of Clitheroe. Mitton is an ancient parish, partly in Lancashire, partly in Yorkshire.
Map of township, information about population, churches, cemeteries.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/AightonBaileyandChaigley
Select tab "Nearby churches" and adjust distance for another map showing churches with coloured icons for various denominations. Select an icon for name of church & foundation date. Click on name of church for more information. Many residents of the township may have had to walk a few miles to a church. They may have used whichever church was nearest or most convenient for their circumstances at the time.
St. John C. of E., Hurst Green founded 1838. C. of E. churches which existed before then include those in Clitheroe, Ribchester and Great Mitton (the last in Yorkshire).
There were Catholic chapels at Stonyhurst College from late C.18th and Hurst Green.

Parish Mouse website
"Parish Mouse  - Lancashire - Mitton -  Lancashire Family History Guide"
 https://www.parishmouse.co.uk/lancashire/mitton-yorkshire-lancashire-family-history-guide/
Mitton, a parish in the district of Clitheroe. Once part of Whalley parish. Alternative name Great Mitton. Adjacent parishes include Chipping, Ribchester, Whalley, Hurst Green.

Mitton on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Mitton/index.html
The only portion of Mitton (Little Mitton) originally in Lancashire was the joint township of Aighton, Bailey & Chaigley. The remainder (Great Mitton) was in Yorkshire.
Transcriptions of registers of All Hallows, Great Mitton, 1610-1800s are on LAN-OPC. It's advisable to read the explanation which introduces the baptisms registers.   
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Re: Pls help with George Wilson, born about 1806 in Clitheroe, looking for parents
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 05 December 21 14:25 GMT (UK) »

Alice's 1st marriage:
17th January 1835 St. Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe
Ralph Cottam
Alice SWARBRICK
Witnesses John Swale, Thomas Heys

Banns were for Alice WARBRICK
(Transcriptions on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks)


Alice's first marriage lasted less than 4 months.
Burial 31st May 1835 St. Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe
Ralph Cottam age 20 abode Clitheroe
A Ralph Cottam was baptised 1815. 
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