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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 28 June 21 01:04 BST (UK) »
THANK YOU EVERYONE - you are all so amazing!!

I wanted to reply to everyone who has replied but I thought I might just do a general one and try and address some of the information found. But I want to thank you all for giving your time to me - I appreciate it!

I think that death record in the paper that mentions Dora Reddon nee Brown is a match. The name of the father and the brother match the family who I am genetically related to. I would be interested to know what her cause of death was. Is that on a death certificate usually?

I believe the Dorothy May Brown who married John Redden is not a match. I did think that this was possibly my Nanna's mum but after receiving Nanna's birth certificate and it states the name Dora and then finding I'm genetically matched to Dora Brown I have since ruled out Dorothy May Brown as being her mum. I don't believe Dorothy May Brown is related to Dora Brown.

I have not been able to find a marriage of Dora to a Redden but I have been searching Redden not Reddon. I will try another search. I would be interested to know if they had other children.

I have found a Thomas Lawton living at 36 Wraith Terrace with his wife Elizabeth, father in law Henry McRoy and children John Lawton, Henry Lawton, Margaret Lawton and then two closed records (one could possibly be my Nanna as she did die in Australia so her death would not be registered in UK). Do you know if there is a way I can get this information released?
Dembry, Lawton, Brown, Redden/Reddon (Durham area, North East UK)

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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 28 June 21 01:18 BST (UK) »
Also, just to clarify - Dora Redden formerly Brown is listed as my Nanna's mum. I do not think Dora was a shortening of the name Dorothy. So Dorothy May Brown would not be a match for Dora (even though Dorothy May Brown is married to a man named Redden). I need to find a marriage of a Dora Brown to someone with the last name Redden/Reddon.

Dorothy Lawton Redden/Brown would be my Nanna.

I also cannot find any link of Dora Brown to a Lawton but my family believe the Lawton is a Thomas Lawton born in 1900 but at this stage I have no proof of this.

Not sure about the Stelling match as in the death notice in the paper Dora was listed as Reddon/Brown. But I will look into it.

Thank you all so much and I look forward to what other great finds you uncover.
Dembry, Lawton, Brown, Redden/Reddon (Durham area, North East UK)

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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 28 June 21 01:19 BST (UK) »
I have been told her father's last name was Lawton - possibly Thomas Lawton? I'm not sure if this is just based on the birth certificate or if my Nanna has verbally told a relative this. I know she had a step mother and also a step or half sister who died of Diptheria at 16 years old.

A possibility?

Marriages Jun 1927 

LAWTON, Thomas   
NELSON,  Elizabeth J   
Sunderland    10a   1405   

Births Dec 1927

LAWTON, Elizabeth J
Mother's maiden surname: NELSON
Sunderland    10a   1019   

Deaths Sep 1942

LAWTON,    Elizabeth J
Aged 14
Sunderland    10a   514

I can't see this family in 1939.  They are not the ones living at Wraith Terrace.

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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 28 June 21 01:21 BST (UK) »
Possibly a complete red herring, but there is a Dora Brown death aged 33 in Walsall, Jun qtr 1929.

Thank you! Based on the notice in the paper this could be a possible match.
Dembry, Lawton, Brown, Redden/Reddon (Durham area, North East UK)


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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 28 June 21 05:30 BST (UK) »
I have got Dora Brown living with her grandparents (George and Frances Maughan) in 1901 in Chester Le Street. I have then got her on the 1911 census living in 18 Dryden St Southwick with her parents John Henry Brown and Mary Ann Maughan and Dora's siblings (John, Harry, George, Ethel, Mary, Ada, Edward). Based on birth registrations I think she could have in April/May/June of 1897 in Chester Le Street.

That is not the correct birth.

BROWN, DORA
Mother's maiden surname: SEYBOURN     
GRO Reference: 1897  J Quarter in CHESTER-LE-STREET  Volume 10A  Page 544

Dora was born before the marriage.

MAUGHAN, DORA  BROWN
No mother's maiden surname     
GRO Reference: 1896  D Quarter in CHESTER-LE-STREET  Volume 10A  Page 548

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Debra  :)

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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 28 June 21 08:21 BST (UK) »
More brilliant finds, making the story even more convoluted!

I know she had a step mother and also a step or half sister who died of Diptheria at 16 years old.

A possibility?

Deaths Sep 1942

LAWTON,    Elizabeth J
Aged 14
Sunderland    10a   514

Burial at Mere Knolls Cemetery, 20 Aug 1942
Elizabeth Jane Lawton, age 14 years
Daughter of Thomas Lawton
Death occurred at Hospital for Infectious Diseases
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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 28 June 21 08:58 BST (UK) »
Re the Lawtons in 1939

A possible death of Mrs Lawton, nee Nelson
June 1980 Sunderland 2 1559
Lawton, Elizabeth Jane
d-o-b 27 March 1907

Birth
June 1907 Sunderland 10a 794
Nelson, Elizabeth Jane       
mother Jobling

Put that date of birth into the 1939 Register free search, we get
Jane E (Elizabeth J) Lawton, born 1907, living 75 Brandling Street, Sunderland

Free results have another Jane E Lawton, born 1927, at the same address.
Presumably poor Elizabeth Jane who died in 1942.

Don't know where Mr. Lawton was, but he may be mentioned in a newspaper report?
Sunderland Daily Echo, 27 Dec 1938 (ocr text)
A Roker youth was remanded by Mr John Storey at Sunderland Police Court to-day, on accusations of stealing a motor-car, driving it away without the owner's consent, and driving without a licence and without an insurance policy in force. He was Sidney Dale, of Lonsdale Road, and Chief Inspector Middlemist said that the owner of the car, Mr Thomas Lawton, motor driver, of Brandling Street, left the vehicle on the car park near the football ground at 1.50 on Christmas morning, and at 8 a.m. he discovered that the car was missing. A description of the car was circulated.....

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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 28 June 21 11:29 BST (UK) »

That is not the correct birth.



Debra - you are amazing!! Thank you!! I'm learning a few tricks from this forum.
Dembry, Lawton, Brown, Redden/Reddon (Durham area, North East UK)

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Re: Dora Brown - Southwick - help me solve a mystery please!?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 28 June 21 12:07 BST (UK) »
I'm sorry - I cannot work out how to reply properly.

But 75 Brandling St has a redacted person listed - this could possibly be my Nanna!!!

Thank you jonw65!

Perhaps Thomas had gone to war?

I know my Nanna left around 16 years old as she did not get along with her step mother - which may have been harder again if her dad had perhaps gone to war?
Dembry, Lawton, Brown, Redden/Reddon (Durham area, North East UK)