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Pigeon Cote House, Kippax approx 1851
« on: Wednesday 30 June 21 23:28 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I'm trying to find where a property called Pigeon Cote House was in 1851, in Kippax.

I've had no luck so far with old maps or newspaper reports.

The places recorded near it in the census appear to be Hill Tops, Bowe Mill and Dock House.

I don't think Pigeon Cote House was a huge place, only three fairly small families were living there. It might even have been an alms house of some sort, as my relative was a widow with young children.

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Re: Pigeon Cote House, Kippax approx 1851
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 July 21 10:34 BST (UK) »
Is it Knottingley, rather than Kippax?
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Re: Pigeon Cote House, Kippax approx 1851
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 July 21 10:56 BST (UK) »
The enumerator's instructions were "All that part of the North West Ward comprising Beck Houses- Pottery - Holes - Hill Top - Goal ( gaol?) Houses - Forge Hill Lane - King's Mills - Carpenter's Yard - Pigeon Cote Houses - Manor House and all the north side of Hill Top as far as the church".

You can see many of those places on this map of Knottingley: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.71094&lon=-1.24989&layers=6&right=BingHyb
(Forge Hill lane, Hill Top, Manor House, Kings Mills, The Church are all visible)

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Re: Pigeon Cote House, Kippax approx 1851
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 July 21 12:03 BST (UK) »
In the 1851 census the next households after the Pigeon Cote Houses are the Bone Mills houses - you can see Shaw's Bone Mill on this 1851 map:
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Re: Pigeon Cote House, Kippax approx 1851
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 July 21 12:09 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure to be honest Shaun, I'm quite confused now.

The family did live in Knottingley in 1841, and where there at least till 1849, so that would make sense.

However the write up on the census on Ancestry says Kippax, yet Kippax is 8 miles away.

It says

Registration district Pontefract
Sub-registration district Kippax
Schedule number 145
Piece 2329
Folio 555
Page number 35
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Re: Pigeon Cote House, Kippax approx 1851
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 July 21 12:23 BST (UK) »
It's a mistranscription - if you look at the image, it's clearly Knottingley.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/YRKHO107_2329_2329-1034
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Re: Pigeon Cote House, Kippax approx 1851
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 July 21 12:29 BST (UK) »
In the 1861 census "Hill Top, Pigeon Cote Houses" are between "Hill Top, Bone Mill" and "Hill Top, Manor House"
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Re: Pigeon Cote House, Kippax approx 1851
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 July 21 14:34 BST (UK) »
I see. Thank you so much ShaunJ.

I've really suffered with this family and mistranscriptions! I wouldn't have got through this without your help, thanks very much.
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