Caswell Family Tree Help (Wiltshire & Surrey)

[AshleyBlay]

Hello All!

I am new to this and this probably a long shot but I am after some help on the Caswell Family, originating in Wiltshire.

Listed below are my findings so far (dates and locations included if I have them). Please feel free to add or correct me as I may have got lines crossed over:

John Caswell m. Elizabeth Flower (b.1719)
           Their children:
                    Richard (b. 1742)
                    Mary (b. 1744)
                    John (b.1747)
                    Ann (b.1749)
                    William (b.1751)
                    Mary (b.1761)

My line follows down from William Caswell (1751) who m. Mary Brewer
         Their Children:
                     Nanny? (b.1765)
                     William (b.1772)
                     Richard (b. 1787)
                     Phoebe

Again my line descends from William Caswell (1772) who m. Ann Neate (1769)
         Their Children:
                     William (b.1790 - d. 1868)
                      Thomas (b.1793)
                      Ann (b.1795)
                      Mary Ann (b.1796) (likely the same child as above)
                      Henry (b. 1798)
                      James (b. 1800)
                      John (b. 1803)
                      Ann (b. 1807)

Again following down from William (1790-1868)  who m. Mary Morse (1792 - 1866)

My line continues from their child George Caswell (1833 - 1892) who m. Sarah Ann Huntley (1839 - 1910)

and their child, my GGG-Grandfather John Caswell who Married Amelia Riddick.

Can anybody validate or add to this? I'd love to go further back if anyone has more information, I have read of Caswells in Ireland, America and Canada but have not linked them to my family as of yet..
                     
Any support is much appreciated, thanks for reading!

[garstonite]

Hiya Ashley and a warm welcome to Rootschat
not all trees are correct - so you will have to judge for yourself if they are
.................................................
John Caswell
Born 28 July 1707 - Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire, England
Deceased 4 January 1788 - Cherhill, Wiltshire, England, aged 80 years old
.............................................................
Elizabeth Flower
Born in 1709
Deceased 16 October 1787, aged 78 years old
.......................................................................
so
you have to decide whether the tree is right - you have Elizabeth Flower b 1719 - the tree has 1709
you see my point ?
.................
the tree owner - she only has Ann Caswell b 1749 - no siblings - so I presume that is her line - BUT - you have Mary Caswell b 1761 - meaning Elizabeth Flower gave birth at 52
so
one of you is wrong
this is what happens with Familytrees - you have to scrutinise them
https://gw.geneanet.org/balizan2?lang=en&pz=raymond&nz=bromley&p=john&n=caswell

 a bit of info on Ann Caswell b 1749 you may not have
https://gw.geneanet.org/balizan2?lang=en&pz=raymond&nz=bromley&p=ann&n=caswell

 

[garstonite]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but this is the type of thing I mean
John Caswell baptised 28th July 1707 in Bishops Cannings ,Wiltshire -
HE DIED 11th Oct 1707 aged 3 months - so that tree IS WRONG

Name:   
John Caswell
Sex:   
Male
Death Date:   
11 Oct 1707
Christening Date:   
28 Jul 1707
Christening Place:   
Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name:   
Will. Caswell
Father's Sex:   
Male
Mother's Name:   
Sarah
Mother's Sex:   
Female
.........SO SADLY IT IS BACK TO SQUARE ONE ...

[garstonite]

England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:   
John Casswell
Sex:   
Male
Spouse's Name:   
Elizabeth Flower
Spouse's Sex:   
Female
Marriage Date:   
29 Jun 1729
Marriage Place:   
Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
Marriage Place (Original):   
St Peter and St Paul's, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England

[garstonite]

it appears that all of John and Elizabeths children were born in Cherhill ,Wiltshire ?
so - was John Casswell born there ??
this is interesting - the original surname may have been KISSEL
William Casswell ( Kissel ) b 1648 Cherhill ,Wiltshire
deceased 17th August 1706 Cherhill
https://gw.geneanet.org/keefran?n=caswell+kissel&oc=&p=will
ADDED
John Kissel married Rebbecah Maryne 8th September 1656 , Steeple Ashton ,Wiltshire
Kissel looks to be a German name from the Hessen area

[rosie99]

Welcome to rootschat 

Again following down from William (1790-1868)  who m. Mary Morse (1792 - 1866)

My line continues from their child George Caswell (1833 - 1892) who m. Sarah Ann Huntley (1839 - 1910)

and their child, my GGG-Grandfather John Caswell who Married Amelia Riddick.

Just tracking backwards ..

William Caswell married Mary Morse on 21 Feb 1814 at  Ogbourne St George.  An online tree has William & Mary on census in Ogbourne in 1861 where do you have them in 1841 & 1851

[sparrett]

I think as CARTWELL in 1841

Born EDIT At Wiltshire, England
St George Ogbourne

William Cartwell  50 . A labourer.
Mary Cartwell  45
Thomas Cartwell  15
Jane Cartwell  10
George Cartwell  8

All born county

Piece 1185
Book 8
Page Number 1

Sue

[AshleyBlay]

it appears that all of John and Elizabeths children were born in Cherhill ,Wiltshire ?
so - was John Casswell born there ??
this is interesting - the original surname may have been KISSEL
William Casswell ( Kissel ) b 1648 Cherhill ,Wiltshire
deceased 17th August 1706 Cherhill
https://gw.geneanet.org/keefran?n=caswell+kissel&oc=&p=will
ADDED
John Kissel married Rebbecah Maryne 8th September 1656 , Steeple Ashton ,Wiltshire
Kissel looks to be a German name from the Hessen area

Thanks for all the help and information you have provided Garstonite, maybe I have my wires crossed somewhere then! I will have to work back and figure out where I have gone wrong.

I have a baptism for Elizabeth Flower in 1719, but haven't found a birth so i've put it as about 1719. However there are a few others in this area around the same time so maybe I picked up on the wrong one?

In regards to John, there is a baptism on the 30th July 1710 in Wiltshire, Parents listed as Richard and Esther Caswell however I am unsure if this is my one or if I am even on the right line so I haven't added it yet.

Interesting regarding the potential Kissel origin as I thought the Caswell name dated quite far back although I could be wrong.

Again, thank you for your help with my research.

[AshleyBlay]

Welcome to rootschat 

Again following down from William (1790-1868)  who m. Mary Morse (1792 - 1866)

My line continues from their child George Caswell (1833 - 1892) who m. Sarah Ann Huntley (1839 - 1910)

and their child, my GGG-Grandfather John Caswell who Married Amelia Riddick.

Just tracking backwards ..

William Caswell married Mary Morse on 21 Feb 1814 at  Ogbourne St George.  An online tree has William & Mary on census in Ogbourne in 1861 where do you have them in 1841 & 1851

Hi Rosie99,

I am unable to find them in any census except the 1861, I am quite stuck on this line of my family at the moment so I am hoping someone else has found something more concrete than what I am currently working with.

I do have an 1851 Census which has a William Caswell, in Ogbourne, the age adds up to the d.o.b I have however his wife on this census is Jane so I am not too sure if this my one or not sadly.

I will keep looking and post back if I find anything more

Thanks for you help