Ann REAY married Benjamin Bissell DYER c1833

[majm]

An interesting cutting about Mr B B Dyer and a Mr Nash  - sharing for background info. 

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226536617   The Britannia and Trades Advocate 11 March 1847.

Mr Nash seems to have been employed at the Comptroller's office where Convict Records were then very much still active.  Transportation did not cease to VDL 1853.   It actually peaked at 30,000 in 1847, the year of the court action reported in that article.   The biographical material in the article shows that BB Dyer came free.

JM

[maddys52]

Yes, the dreaded 1833 marriages...  The following year the Registrar at the NSW Supreme Court took on the responsibility for 'certification' purposes for bdm events and of course as well trained, efficient, clerically minded paper pushers did (and still do), retained copy of 'everything' he certified as being true copy of a document....  Grants for Land, Bills of Exchange, Church registers, Probate matters, private letters between family members .... but with baptism, burial, weddings ... the extant records handed over to Registrar General in 1856 were only from 1834 and only where the Supreme Court's Registrar had certified copy to be true etc....  So unless someone had sought a certified copy of a Church Record that had actually been transmitted to one of the NSW Chaplains or to the denomination's Sydney office (1834 for Roman Catholic, and Presbyterian,  1839 for Wesleyan/Methodist; 1840 for Congregational, Independent and Baptist)  then it was NOT part of the initial holding handed over to NSW Registrar General  (Land Titles Office was the senior and larger office over the bdm function that had been added on to it in 1856).

I have asked my ancient rellies to assist with this quest, afterall, Benjamin was a Deputy Registrar for BDM in Tasmania ....      I hope some of the regular RChatters get to solve it before my ancient rellies who are not RChatters.   

JM

Thank you again JM, as I've said before - you and your rellies are a treasure!

[maddys52]

An interesting cutting about Mr B B Dyer and a Mr Nash  - sharing for background info. 

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226536617   The Britannia and Trades Advocate 11 March 1847.

Mr Nash seems to have been employed at the Comptroller's office where Convict Records were then very much still active.  Transportation did not cease to VDL 1853.   It actually peaked at 30,000 in 1847, the year of the court action reported in that article.   The biographical material in the article shows that BB Dyer came free.

JM

Again, thanks JM. When I first read this article, quite some time ago now, not knowing much about WA history, it took me some time to realise that Rev J B  WITTENHOON was actually Rev John Burdett WITTENOOM. He arrived on the Wanstead in 1830, the passenger list appears to only be available in the WA State Library. I have asked to Library to confirm whether BB DYER was indeed on this particular voyage, but am yet to hear from them.

It is an interesting article, and shows attitude to a convict past still in that time, especially as would have affected BB DYER's business and reputation.

[wivenhoe]

Online family trees have Ann DYER nee REAY being mother to children born 1834 - 1849.

From the death notice, Mercury 8 Dec 1879, Ann is in her 76th year. You might wonder at Ann having her first child at age 31 years.  It is possible that Ann has an earlier family?

Launceston Examiner 2 Apr 1853 p3
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36268669?
MARRIAGE. By special license, on the 19th ult., at Trinity Cathedral, by the Rev. J. G. MEDLAND, Thomas Stone KELLAWAY, Esq., to Catherine Sophia, eldest daughter of Mr. B. B. DYER of
Hobart Town.

VIC BDM death
10034/1911  KELLAWAY  Cath Sophia 
parents    UKN UKN / DYER
Death   died Melb E  age 76

The Argus 12 Sep 1911 p1
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11615517?
KELLAWAY -On the fifth of September at Melbourne, Kate widow of the late T S KELLAWAY, formerly
of Sutton Park Gunderoo, NSW.

Queanbeyan Age 9 Jul 1887 p2   (bravery award)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/30916585?
......Hugh Moreton HOLT   6 years of Newcastle.....brother William 3 years....sister.....nephew of Mrs T S KELLAWAY of "Sutton Park"....

For the purpose of locating all children born to Ann REAY, and to Benjamin Bissell DYER, it would be useful to identify the DYER - HOLT connection suggested here. 

[majm]

Yes, and among the grandchildren for the Rev'd was the lass on our $50 note...

Yes, excellent suggestion from Wivenhoe re sorting that connection.   I have a very early Gundaroo connection in my own tree,  I will check it out too... even earlier than Hamilton Hume passing through that district.

JM

[maddys52]

Yes, and among the grandchildren for the Rev'd was the lass on our $50 note...

Yes, so I discovered when I realised I didn't know enough about WA!

[maddys52]

Thanks for th esuggestion wivenhoe. I have spent some time looking into Benjamin's family -

Catherine Sophia (1834-1911) married Thomas Stone KELLAWAY in 1853
Sarah Bissell (1836-1920) married William Charles LUTTRELL in 1857
Benjamin Reay (1838-1924) married Janet Jessie MUNRO in 1874
Clara Maria (1839-1916) married Dean HENRY in 1863
Frederick Charles (1842-1925)
William Reuben (1844-1906) married Margaret Sarah Ann GILLIGAN in 1874 (in NZ)
Elizabeth (most likely? 1846-1846)
Robert Thomas (1849-1922) married Louisa Yeoland in 1874

I have the item about the "little hero" in my notes - I see that I am yet to follow up his relationship to Catherine, will get on that now!

[maddys52]

Btw, quite a bit about the KELLAWAYs on Trove .

[maddys52]

So far ...

Hugh Moreton and William HOLT are the children of Hugh William Lea HOLT and Margaret McEwen MITCHELL who married in Newcastle district 1873. Father Hugh appears to have quite famous - also saving many people from drowning. Looks like 8 children born to the couple beween 1874 and 1892.

Still looking for the connection to Catherine Sophia KELLWAY nee DYER.