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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 18:15 BST (UK) »
For info.

Daughter Isabella 1911 birth father John, iron moulder mother Isabella nee Tomlinson

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01511/1613732.pdf
Yes this would be the child born in Dublin, according to the census they also lost a child.

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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 18:15 BST (UK) »
Is this Isabella on 1891 census?

Town:   Clydebank
County:   Dumbartonshire
Address:   4 Roseberry Pl
James Johnston 59   Head
Isabella Johnston 58   Wife
Jane B Johnston 22 Daughter
Margaret W Johnston 19   Daughter
Isabella F Tomlinson   7   Granddaughter born Glasgow
David Forsyth 23   Boarder
Alexander McPherson 55   Boarder

There is a public tree on Ance*y with this info.

Isabella Forsyth Tomlinson
Born 10 2 1884 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Died 19 01 1912 Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland

parents
Thomas Tomlinson

Clementina Forsyth Johnston
born 18 MAR 1865 Middle OR New Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland
Death Unknown

Baptism
Clementine Forsyth Johnston
Born 18 Mar 1865 Middle OR New Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland
Father James  Johnston Mother Isabella  Forsyth

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James Johnston
Marriage May 1853 West Or Old Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland
Father:    David Johnston
Spouse:   Isabella Forsyth father Alexander
Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910


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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 18:34 BST (UK) »
Is this Isabella on 1891 census?

Town:   Clydebank
County:   Dumbartonshire
Address:   4 Roseberry Pl
James Johnston 59   Head
Isabella Johnston 58   Wife
Jane B Johnston 22 Daughter
Margaret W Johnston 19   Daughter
Isabella F Tomlinson   7   Granddaughter born Glasgow
David Forsyth 23   Boarder
Alexander McPherson 55   Boarder

There is a public tree on Ance*y with this info.

Isabella Forsyth Tomlinson
Born 10 2 1884 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Died 19 01 1912 Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland

parents
Thomas Tomlinson

Clementina Forsyth Johnston
born 18 MAR 1865 Middle OR New Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland
Death Unknown

Baptism
Clementine Forsyth Johnston
Born 18 Mar 1865 Middle OR New Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland
Father James  Johnston
Mother Isabella  Forsyth

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James Johnston
Marriage May 1853 West Or Old Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland
Father:    David Johnston
Spouse:   Isabella Forsyth father Alexander
Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
fantastic Ladyhawke, thank you, the 'Forsyth' surname sounds ever so grand?

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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 18:38 BST (UK) »
George Square is a registration district in Edinburgh.
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)


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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 18:41 BST (UK) »
I’m wondering if this might be the marriage entry for Isabella Forsyth Tomlinson’s parents
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TOMLINSON James
JOHNSTON Clementina
1882
644/3 541
Dennistoun
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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 18:55 BST (UK) »
1881 census

Clementina Johnston Age: 16
Relationship:   Daughter
Father's Name:   James Johnston
Mother's Name:   Isabella Johnston
Where born:   Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number:   644/3
Registration district:   Dennistoun
Civil parish:   Glasgow Barony
County:   Lanarkshire
Address:   5 Dunchattan St.
Occupation:   Hardware Warehouse-Girl
James Johnston 49   Head
Isabella Johnston 48   Wife
David Johnston 25   Son
Alexander Johnston 19 son
Mary F Johnston 14   Daughter
Jane B Johnston12   Daughter
Margaret W Johnston 9   Daughter
Robert Wilson 20   Lodger
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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 19:43 BST (UK) »
excellent and much-appreciated response, thank you so much.
I googled and came across some info that the 'old Dunchattan street' was demolished in the 1970s, hopefully, I may be able to source an old photo of the area from the era.

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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 22:13 BST (UK) »
There are these two death entries on SP for Clementina that would explain why Isabella is with her Johnston grandparents on 1891 census

JOHNSTON Clementina Fors age 23 Mother’s maiden name FORSYTH
Death year 1888
Ref. 501/ 101
RD district Old or West Kilpatrick

THOMLINSON Clementina Fors age 23  mother’s maiden name FORSYTH
Death Year 1888
Ref. 501/ 101
RD district Old or West Kilpatrick

Not found much for John Dunbar husband of Isabella Forsyth Tomlinson
his second marriage to Marcella Fagan father named John Dunbar occ labourer

Their daughter Marcella Josephine Dunbar born 1915 father John’s occupation Foundry Moulder
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01388/1571010.pdf
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Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 06 July 21 22:51 BST (UK) »
There are these two death entries on SP for Clementina that would explain why Isabella is with her Johnston grandparents on 1891 census

JOHNSTON Clementina Fors age 23 Mother’s maiden name FORSYTH
Death year 1888
Ref. 501/ 101
RD district Old or West Kilpatrick

THOMLINSON Clementina Fors age 23  mother’s maiden name FORSYTH
Death Year 1888
Ref. 501/ 101
RD district Old or West Kilpatrick

It's actually just one entry indexed twice, once under her maiden surname and once under her married surname. It's the 101st death entry in RD 501 (Old or West Kilpatrick) in 1888.

Unlike English and Welsh BMD references which refer to a page in the registration book which can contain several entries, Scottish BMD references are unique. If the reference is the same, it's the same record even if it's indexed twice or more.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.