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Offline MonicaL

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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 07 July 21 22:12 BST (UK) »
Not sure the Lauder family mentioned from 1861 is connected  :-\

The mother Helen shows with the surname Smail. A later child's birth www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYPX-W2N

In 1871, that Helen is working as a cook in Edinburgh. Aged 18, her is age is consistent to a birth year of c. 1853. The Helen who married Dougald McMillan is looking to have been born before 1850 from all her documents.

Furthermore, the John Renwick from Lauder is still alive in 1881...

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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 07 July 21 22:12 BST (UK) »
The Helen Renwick born Lauder 1852, is working as a servant in Edinburgh in the 1871 census.

EDIT - posted at same time as Monica. I agree with your observations. :)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 07 July 21 22:18 BST (UK) »
However, She is aged 24 on her marriage in 1874 !!
 That age is not consistent with census.
There was some considerable age difference between her and husband, and Maybe their ages were elastic so it seemed the age gap was not so big.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 07 July 21 22:27 BST (UK) »
Just for the record…
Baptism date for Helen in Lauder is 12 June 1852.
Parents John Lauder and Helen Smail
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 08 July 21 00:00 BST (UK) »
This would be the 1881 census to get from Scotlands People to confirm, from the original source, the place of birth for Ellen.

ELLEN  MCMILLAN
census 1881
F      32
598/ 2/ 20
Kilmaurs     Ayr
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 08 July 21 07:19 BST (UK) »
The tree on Ancestry is somewhat confusing to say the least.  It refers to Ellens parents being John Renwick & Catherine White & shows Catherine as having one daughter by Renwick in 1850

However - it shows John Renwick having one daughter in 1850 by Ellen Stevenson ??? ???

Comparing the mothers name on the marriage certificate, I suppose it could be read as Stevenson.

Whoever has done the tree isn't sure of the facts.
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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 08 July 21 08:27 BST (UK) »
I have looked at the 1881 census and it unfortunately just gives her Where Born as London, England.

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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 08 July 21 08:50 BST (UK) »
There is a Lorton,  Cumberland and lots of Renwick ' s in Cumberland.  Could it be there.
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Re: John RENWICK
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 08 July 21 09:22 BST (UK) »
It’s definitely shown as London.