John RENWICK

[MonicaL]

•   Thomas WHITE b.1857 Old Monkland

Funny you should mention Robert Muir, wilcoxon 

I was double checking for the birth of Thomas White, who shows in the household as born c. 1857. From Family Search, I found this indexed entry www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQBS-3ML Without looking at the original image, can't see where this is taking us!

Monica

[Forguette]

Would someone post the details of the 1861 census for Wm White and Catherine White please, thanks.

[Neale1961]

I was double checking for the birth of Thomas White, who shows in the household as born c. 1857. From Family Search, I found this indexed entry www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQBS-3ML Without looking at the original image, can't see where this is taking us!

Monica

Very intriguing. Robert, her son is the father.? Perhaps it only indicates that husband William White had left her by this stage in 1857, and she was back to using Mrs. Muir???
I wonder if one of the Muir sons, was really father for Ellen Renwick? Robert and John would have been old enough by 1852.

[Neale1961]

1861 census
18 Dairy Row, Old Monkland
William White 58 Head - born Muirkirk  - Furnaceman
Catherine White 48 wife born Airdrie
William Muir 16 stepson
Margaret Muir 8? stepdaughter
Catherine Muir14 stepdaughter
Jane Muir 12 stepdaughter
Agnes Muir 10 stepdaughter
Archibald Muir 8 stepdaughter
Thomas White 4 son

Note _ This is a copy of a transcript. I have not seen the original

[Forguette]

Thank you Neale.

[wilcoxon]

Robert Muir born 1833 seems to have had a tough time. In 1891 and 1901 he is in New Monkland poorhouse where he died unmarried on 31 July 1902.
His brother John Muir was the informant. he gives the parents names as Hugh Muir. HELEN White, previously Muir, MS Thomson.
This seems to conform that Catherine is the same person.

I found this on a tree online with very little other information.