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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:29 BST (UK) »
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def2-1175-18430403&div=t18430403-1175#highlight 

1175. JOHN ASBURY , and ISAAC GREENSLADE , were indicted for stealing, on the 5th of April, 1 handkerchief, value 3d., the goods of Joseph Metcalf, from his person.

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ASBURY,— GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.

GREENSLADE*— GUILTY .— Transported for Ten Years.


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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Neale1961.
I was just reading that.
Can't find James listed at all though.
Blundell- Sussex - Newcastle
Kiefel- Prussia- South Australia
Fiegert-Prussia- South Australia
Retford/Deptford-Hampshire- NSW
Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.

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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:31 BST (UK) »
I get the impression that Isaac and James is the same man.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:35 BST (UK) »
Neale1961
I'm beginning to believe the same thing. Transportation for stealing a handkerchief is a bit rough, but there are other mentions of Isaac Greenslade on the Old Bailey list too...if it's the same man, maybe it was his last strike.
Blundell- Sussex - Newcastle
Kiefel- Prussia- South Australia
Fiegert-Prussia- South Australia
Retford/Deptford-Hampshire- NSW
Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.


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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:43 BST (UK) »
I can see how ISAAC could be mis-read as JAMES and vice versa when written in longhand, so it is possible that the printer was initially working from handwritten notes when preparing the Old Bailey documentation,  same with the indexer for the Tas records.   Index clearly has Isaac, but the actual document definitely reads James. 

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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:46 BST (UK) »
James Greenslade per Anson
Sentence expired 1853
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36268865?searchTerm=“James%20greenslade”
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:48 BST (UK) »
James Greenslade per Anson
Sentence expired 1853
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36268865?searchTerm=“James%20greenslade”

Well found Neale.

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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:54 BST (UK) »
Certificate of freedom April 1853 (last column, towards bottom)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/65578539?searchTerm=“James%20greenslade”
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: James GREENSLADE Convict
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 08 July 21 05:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks JM and Neale1961 for your help.
Can we conclude that James and Isaac are one and the same ?
I still can't find a marriage or death for James in Tasmania. If it is my James his brother immigrated to and died in SA.
Blundell- Sussex - Newcastle
Kiefel- Prussia- South Australia
Fiegert-Prussia- South Australia
Retford/Deptford-Hampshire- NSW
Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.