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Re: Help in finding out if this was his birth cert. #
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 08 July 21 22:37 BST (UK) »
Collected by their father the next day - c/o address in Tottenham

I think ... 9 Cresy Street [probably = Gresse Street], Stephen Street, Tottenham Court Road
(in St Pancras, not Tottenham)

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 July 21 22:46 BST (UK) »
thanks to everyone for all this info,.  Very  interesting.

John Murphy  died 1919  Holbron

John E Murphy d aged 5 registered Jun qtr 1919 Holborn RD
Volume: 1b p 494

Michael gave a picture of himself to my Husband's Father.  On the back was written  to my sisters 
Carrie & Nora,   
I can't find anything on the girls
On the record when he came to Canada it said no living relatives in England which was in  1927

I haven't had a chance to go through all the info. that was sent  yet.

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 July 21 22:59 BST (UK) »
Michael gave a picture of himself to my Husband's Father.  On the back was written  to my sisters 
Carrie & Nora
,   
I can't find anything on the girls

So perhaps not the family investigated above.

Can you say what led you to believe that Michael came from Holborn?

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 July 21 23:40 BST (UK) »
Yes, I think the family mentioned above is the right one.

On some of the Cdn. records it says he was from Holborn.


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Re: Help in finding out if this was his birth cert. #
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 July 21 05:26 BST (UK) »
Cassie and Nora could be foster sisters or half sisters so not necessarily Murphy surname  what age is he in photo and do you have an approximate year it was taken
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« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 July 21 10:32 BST (UK) »
What happened to John?

The creed register shows that he went to the Cleveland Street Infirmary on 21 Dec 1914
https://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/clevelandstreet.html

Discharge here, ancestry seem to have missed him in their indexing
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1Y-F9GS-7

Perhaps he didn't return?
Death
March 1915 Pancras 1b 46
Murphy, John
age 0

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 July 21 10:49 BST (UK) »

John Murphy  died 1919  Holbron



John E Murphy d aged 5 registered Jun qtr 1919 Holborn RD
Volume: 1b p 494


GRO indexes gives his middle name

MURPHY, JOHN  EDWARD    age 5 
GRO Reference: 1919  J Quarter in HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 494
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« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 July 21 10:59 BST (UK) »
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPB-MV2

Could Carrie be Catherine? :-\
For whom we have yet to find a definite birth registration?
Says she was born Bloomsbury.

James and Margaret Murphy are in the St Giles & St George exam books in late 1908.
Doesn't mention children, more investigation needed.
Says they married in Southwark (St Georges Westminster Bridge Rd)
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31363_A109106-00224

Marriage appears to be in England Roman Catholic Parish Marriages (I don't have access)
Jacobum Murphy + Margeritam Glynn
Southwark, St George's Cathedral, 1906

As per marriage registration mentioned by Mabel and Bookbox.

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 July 21 11:13 BST (UK) »
James and Margaret Murphy are in the St Giles & St George exam books in late 1908.
Doesn't mention children, more investigation needed.

Says admitted 25 Dec 1908
Endell Street creed registers, this one goes to the end of 1908 (continued from another film)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1B-Q9W2-F

Unhelpfully, they run out of space for the M's in November. Where have they put the remainder? Until they are found, investigation stalled!

New register starts January 1909.