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A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« on: Friday 09 July 21 15:22 BST (UK) »
I can see there have been discussions before about this topic but I can't see that this particular point is covered.

Until recently I had not really appreciated why Mormons (and/or members of the Church of Latter Day Saints) were so keen to establish their family trees.  I do now understand the idea behind sealing their ancestors and although I'm very grateful for all the research done by the Church (which often makes my own research easier), something a little nearer to home has arisen.  I'm now wondering, at the point they decide to "seal" someone to their family by using proxy baptisms etc, is there a searchable record kept? 

I have realised there is every likelihood that one of my ancestors (and potentially his ancestors too) will have been sealed in this way. I'm an atheist myself so on the face of it I would normally just dismiss this as a "fun fact".  I'm also fully aware that they say the baptised person would, in the afterlife, have the chance to reject that sealing and I suspect that this ancestor, from a God-fearing high Anglican background, would probably do just that.

Nevertheless, if registers DO exist I would like the chance to have a look.  The huge tree I've almost finished is going into a book and I know there are a few older relatives who wouldn't be too happy about this idea.  I may just leave the whole thing out but I still feel I need to check if possible!

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Re: A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 July 21 17:25 BST (UK) »
This seems to be something peculiar to the Mormons and as far as I am aware not biblically based.  Have a look at this

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Temple_Records_of_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#Living_Sealing_to_Spouse_Records_.281841.E2.80.931996.29

but I don't think it will help in finding any actual records to see.
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Re: A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 July 21 17:30 BST (UK) »
I will admit that I know very little about LDS, but I used to visit the local research room to search parish records.  One day, a lady was uploading her family tree to the LDS site and made the comment to the Church member "I'm not very sure that I've found the correct wife for this marriage".  Answer "It doesn't matter".  :-\ :-X  Make what you will of that comment!
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Re: A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 July 21 17:50 BST (UK) »
Sounds a rather odd way to do genealogy doesn't it BumbleB  ::)

I get the impression that the LDS has some slightly oddball? ideas and therefore are not regarded as acceptable to the mainstream faiths.

I may be wrong as I don't have an extensive knowledge of the LDS.
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Re: A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 July 21 17:53 BST (UK) »
Nor do I - I was just passing on what I overheard some years ago.  It was a one-off situation as far as I was concerned, but it did stick in my mind!
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Re: A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 July 21 17:54 BST (UK) »
I also used to use a local LDS family history centre and witnessed similar comments to that heard by BumbleB on more than one occasion.  I got the impression that it did not really matter who they added
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Re: A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 July 21 17:57 BST (UK) »
"It doesn't matter"

Well, in fact, it doesn't matter if your goal is simply to rack up more names in the heavenly roster of the LDS.  It's irrelevant whether the people were actually married or not.  But, who cares if they "seal" people who were not Mormons, who were non-Christians or even atheists.  Let's face it, it's 100% guff.
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Re: A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 July 21 18:02 BST (UK) »
BUT Erato - unfortunately LDS appear to add names (ad hoc) of people who perhaps are/were very tied to their own religion, which could be very stressful to their families.

You don't want to know my take on "religion", which I gave up at the age of 13.  :-X
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Re: A minor point on LDS "sealing"
« Reply #8 on: Friday 09 July 21 18:32 BST (UK) »
"very stressful to their families"

As I said, it's guff.  It has no impact on anyone living or dead so there's no reason to get "stressed."  Religions do this sort of thing all the time.  If your parents are Catholic, then the church tots you up in their roll of Catholics in order to boost their numbers.  If you're 'born' a Muslim, you can't get out of it.

For all I know, someone has gone to the trouble of "sealing" my ancestors thereby "sealing" me into the cult as well.   I don't lose a minute's sleep over it.
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Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis