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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 11 July 21 12:08 BST (UK) »
I think you need further confirmation of James' age before you look for an immigration record as he would have been more than 10 years younger than Rebecca.

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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #19 on: Monday 12 July 21 09:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Debra,
There is a 10-year gap according to their marriage certificate. He was 22, a 32 yo widow.
They had a baby in early 1878, married on March 19th and, said baby, Emily Mary died later that week on 24th March.

No luck so far on passenger lists. I have found a few possible deaths with matching parent names but they are in NSW and Qld, and family says he died and is buried Bendigo.
Researching: Cronin / Nolan - Gortadrislig, Kerry
Finn/Clifford - Callinafercy and Scort, Kerry
Spillane - Milltown
Also:- Byrne / Tyrrell - Dublin

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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #20 on: Monday 12 July 21 13:04 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This is connection to images of Bendigo Cemetery Records. They are in date order commencing 1858
R’s commence on image 291 of 641. They give age, in some cases cause of death, address grave number etc., religion. 

23.1.1994 image 296 Richardson, James 58. Baptist

23.1.1914 image 297 Richardson, JAMES 64. Presb.

5.11.1925 image 298 RICHARDS Rebecca 82 c of e

1943 Image 301 Richardson Annie Rebecca

Not typed all info., and there may be others which I have missed

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVT-ZWMX-S?i=290&cat=201328

Come back if you have problems with connection.

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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 13 July 21 09:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Spendlove, I will go and check it out.  Much appreciated.
Researching: Cronin / Nolan - Gortadrislig, Kerry
Finn/Clifford - Callinafercy and Scort, Kerry
Spillane - Milltown
Also:- Byrne / Tyrrell - Dublin


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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 13 July 21 09:22 BST (UK) »
Trying again...
Happy for any suggestions as to what comes after Elizabeth

I popped this up on the Handwriting Deciphering thread and got 2 suggestions of McLucan and 2 for McQueen.
Researching: Cronin / Nolan - Gortadrislig, Kerry
Finn/Clifford - Callinafercy and Scort, Kerry
Spillane - Milltown
Also:- Byrne / Tyrrell - Dublin

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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 15 July 21 08:47 BST (UK) »
After wading through many death indexes related to James Richards, I still haven't been able to narrow down his death. The shop fire in 1909 (posted earlier in this thread) indicates he is still alive then. I subsequently purchased the death certificate for his wife, Rebecca Harry nee Williams. She died in 1925 at the age of 82 in Bendigo, Victoria.

Of note, it says she was 'wife of carter'. A question for those familiar with Victorian records of the time, if husband James was dead, would it not say widow of'?
On the same page are three males all with their occupation and a 73 yo woman tagged with 'domestic' so it doesn't help me.

Thanks for your time. Stay safe.
Researching: Cronin / Nolan - Gortadrislig, Kerry
Finn/Clifford - Callinafercy and Scort, Kerry
Spillane - Milltown
Also:- Byrne / Tyrrell - Dublin

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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 15 July 21 10:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am not much chop with Vic BDM, sorry.  But, I have a question .... on Rebecca's d.c. what was relationship recorded on the d.c. of the informant ....   

Re 'wife of a Carter' .. if that was on a NSW cert from that era, it would indicate that the informant believed the carter was NOT known to be deceased.  (N.B.  thats a subtle difference from the informer having positive knowledge that the carter was alive). 

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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 15 July 21 10:40 BST (UK) »
Hi JM,

Just like all the other entrants on the page, Rebecca's informant is an 'authorised agent'. I can't read the name or address, of said informant, other than Bendigo, but it's clearly not James.

Of the 5 entrants on the page, the three men have the same authorised agent, the 2 women have differing ones to each other and the men. It doesn't seem to be linked to the place of death as the other woman and one of the men both died in the Benevolent Asylum, Bendigo and have different agents.
Researching: Cronin / Nolan - Gortadrislig, Kerry
Finn/Clifford - Callinafercy and Scort, Kerry
Spillane - Milltown
Also:- Byrne / Tyrrell - Dublin

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Re: Born at Sea - Wales to Australia
« Reply #26 on: Friday 16 July 21 13:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Nettie.

I'm a latecomer to this query. I have done a check of the PROV (Public Records Office of Victoria) records of unassisted migrants and found the following that might help (see attachments). I'd guess that the 24 year-olds might be the parents of the infant. Insofar as the birth registration, I had the same problem with one of my ancestors who was born at sea on the way out. Her birth was registered at Durban, Natal (as it was known in those days) and she was baptised in the Methodist Chapel there. The arrival passenger list lists her as "Infant - British subject."  This could be a helpful place to look. Here's the PROV site link if you are interested:

https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration/unassisted-passenger-lists

Peter