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John Harvey Robinson- Jarrow, Durham, Newcastle - brick wall
« on: Wednesday 14 July 21 21:48 BST (UK) »
Hi
Can anyone help with my brick wall?
My great grandmother was Martha Robinson born illegitimate in 1846 to Mary Robinson of Jarrow, Durham. Martha was born Spittal Tongues, Newcastle she married William Howard and they had one son William. William Snr passed away and in 1875 Martha married my great grandfather John Harvey Robinson, St Andrews, Newcastle. Marthaís father on the MC is George Wheatley who is actually her step father. John Harveyís father is also John Harvey Robinson (occupation soldier). John Harvey Jnrís occupation is engineer - in later census records he isnít present but Martha in 1881 has stated she is a mariners wife and 1891 a widow. On the MC residence at the time of marriage is Percy Street, Newcastle.
I have searched and found a few GRO numbers for John Robinson births but nothing with the middle name Harvey. Canít seem to find anything for his death. Tried looking for his father but loads of John Robinsonís who were soldiers.
Any tips, sites etc that would help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: John Harvey Robinson- Jarrow, Durham, Newcastle - brick wall
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 July 21 22:40 BST (UK) »
I can't help with his birth but there is a possible death for John Harvey Jr.
Given he was an engineer and a mariner, there is this death at sea.

British Armed Forces & Overseas Deaths & Burials
John H Robinson  age 38
died 5th April 1888 when the s s Levant was lost at sea. He was a 1st engineer and from Berwick. The Levant was from South Shields.

If you have access to FindMyPast or the British Newspaper Archive you can search for news items.

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Re: John Harvey Robinson- Jarrow, Durham, Newcastle - brick wall
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 July 21 22:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for the lead I will investigate further.
Really appreciated.


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Re: John Harvey Robinson- Jarrow, Durham, Newcastle - brick wall
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 July 21 23:14 BST (UK) »
https://www.wrecksite.eu/docBrowser.aspx?2273?5?1

This says he was from Jarrow but no full name to confirm identity.

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Re: John Harvey Robinson- Jarrow, Durham, Newcastle - brick wall
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 July 21 23:21 BST (UK) »
Site or my internet down at the moment but gut feeling it is him. My grandmother was born 1885 and after that I canít find any mention of John Harvey anywhere. I have looked on wreck sites before but have not found anything. Thank you again you have started to smash my wall!

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Re: John Harvey Robinson- Jarrow, Durham, Newcastle - brick wall
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 July 21 13:15 BST (UK) »
The official BOT wreck report.
https://plimsoll.southampton.gov.uk/SOTON_Documents/Plimsoll/15445.pdf

The last crew agreement of LEVANT official number 51378 can be obtained, for a small fee, from here.

https://mha.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=51378
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Re: John Harvey Robinson- Jarrow, Durham, Newcastle - brick wall
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 July 21 13:36 BST (UK) »
Transcription says 5th April but image 24th March


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Re: John Harvey Robinson- Jarrow, Durham, Newcastle - brick wall
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 July 21 15:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for all the very helpful replies.
I'm trying to find him now via records but struggling to find a Berwick birth record.
Anyone know if John's wife Martha would have received any income after his death e.g. via a widow's pension? I just like to know these details so I can imagine what her and the children's life would have been like. My grandmother, one of their children, went to live with distant relatives after John's death.