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The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« on: Thursday 15 July 21 00:14 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone.

I found this in the Bishops' Transcripts for 1771 (Parish of Newburn) and am a little puzzled as to its meaning. All help gratefully appreciated.

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Re: The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 July 21 00:26 BST (UK) »
I think it might mean P for pauper or poor.

There was a tax introduced around then for entries made in the records. The P would signify that they were poor and were not charged a fee.


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Re: The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 July 21 00:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget.

Yes, that makes sense. I thought it could also mean "Pauper", which is the same thing. I didn't know that there was a tax for entries made in the records. That explains a lot.

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Re: The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 July 21 00:30 BST (UK) »
I think it might mean P for pauper or poor.

There was a tax introduced around then for entries made in the records. The P would signify that they were poor and were not charged a fee.


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I wonder if it could be P for Parish (in other words the cost of the burial was met by the parish)?

The effect would be the same - the deceased and/or relatives did not cover the burial cost.

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Re: The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 July 21 00:33 BST (UK) »
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Re: The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 July 21 00:34 BST (UK) »
I think the act was introduced in the early 1780s but maybe it was used as a signifier before then.  Maybe it was Poor Law before then. I'd need to get out my books and refs on the subject but I'm not sure where they are at the moment. 

Add - I've seen a lot of Ps or Pauper written in some Welsh records at that time
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Re: The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 July 21 00:40 BST (UK) »
Here's a link to a discussion on the topic


https://ancestrysolutions.com/referencecentre/FAQResearchA4.html

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Generally, I have noticed a high incidence of 'P' descriptions attached to baptisms and burials in the registers of some parishes. Other registers are unusually lacking in what one would consider to be a reflection of an average occurrence of poor within a parish. Without having examined the Overseer's Accounts of every parish where anomalies have been found, I can only think that perhaps the high incident rate of baptisms and burials exempt from the tax were performed by overtly sympathetic clerics. It seems that many clerics were highly sensitive and empathetic to the stringent economic realities endured by the members of their congregation and did what they could, within the confines of secular and ecclesiastical law, to relieve the expense of unpopular taxes.
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Re: The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 July 21 10:34 BST (UK) »
Hi folks.

Since my first question I've found this unusual set of entries in the Doddington (Northumberland) Transcripts (1796). Self-explanatory, but quite unusual. An interesting solution by the sub-curate!

Thanks for your help, everyone!

Peter

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Re: The meaning of "P" in Bishops' Transcripts.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 July 21 10:53 BST (UK) »
Last year I asked a similar question, and received detailed replies.  :D
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=829319.0