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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #27 on: Friday 16 July 21 09:18 BST (UK) »
1901 census for William Lamkin & Sarah A

 RG13; Piece: 441; Folio: 131; Page: 28

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #28 on: Friday 16 July 21 10:06 BST (UK) »
Death of Amelia Ellen Lamkin.

Deaths Mar 1931 
Lamkin    Amelia E(Ellen on gro record)    72    Sevenoaks    2a   1327

Possible death of William (Thomas) Lamkin, he did marry in Chelsea in 1899 age is out a bit (4 years)

Deaths Sep 1928   
Lamkin    William    56    Chelsea    1a   355


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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #29 on: Friday 16 July 21 10:24 BST (UK) »
So are we thinking that William remarried when Ellen went into the Workhouse in 1898?  ???

Looks like there are multiple William Thomas Lamkins in the area, of similar age. Perhaps it's not him in 1899?  ??? William and Ellen and living together in the 1911 Census and 1920 Electoral Roll at Church Lane, Bearsted, so perhaps the 1899 marriage is a different William.
Galway, Ireland: Cunningham, Deely, Callanan, Conerneen/Conerney, Mullins and more. London, England:  Callingham, Buck, Parker, Comerford, Staples, Pitter, Gallington, Langhelt, Setzer and more! Bearsted/Maidstone, Kent: Lamkin, Langley, Smith


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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #30 on: Friday 16 July 21 11:44 BST (UK) »
Their daughter Caroline Lamkin marries Archibald Frederick Shepherd in 1913 but then seems to vanish  ???
Galway, Ireland: Cunningham, Deely, Callanan, Conerneen/Conerney, Mullins and more. London, England:  Callingham, Buck, Parker, Comerford, Staples, Pitter, Gallington, Langhelt, Setzer and more! Bearsted/Maidstone, Kent: Lamkin, Langley, Smith

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #31 on: Friday 16 July 21 20:22 BST (UK) »
Hoping not to cause any confusion but not sure what to make of this record from
London England Workhouse Admission & Discharge Records 1764 - 1930

Record Type:   Admission
Admission Date:   1906-1908
Admission Place:   Camden, St Pancras, London

LAMKIN William 1859  ?? Labr.
    ď         Amelia 1860  needlework
under heading nearest relative or friends it says
Daughter Mrs ASHFORD, 31 Sandwich St.

So did some investigating and there is a marriage Sep 1907 Pancras

MINNIE Lamkin
Male name on same page
Frederick ASHFORD

The 1907 marriage detail is available to view on Anc*y

Minnie LAMKIN age 21 a spinster
her address 31 Sandwich Street
Her father a labourer but his name is JOHN Lamkin  :-\

Minnie is on the 1911 census age 23 born Wimbledon with her husband and two children
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW52-SKV

She is on 1939 register in Uckfield Sussex as Winnie Ashford age 51

Looks as if she dies in Wales

Minnie Ashford of 1 the Avenue Merthyr Tydfil
Died    26 Jun 1965
Administration Llandaff 13 Aug 1965 to Frederick
   
Frederick Ashford of 1 The Avenue Merthyr Tydfil
Died    23 Feb 1976
Probate    7 May 1976
Probate Registry:   Llandaff


I think I've now found her birth record:

Mabel Smith LAMKIN Mar 1895 West Ham


Perhaps Mabel's birth record might help with her mother Ellen  ???

Edit to add

Has Mabel be found on 1901 & 1911 census?



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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #32 on: Friday 16 July 21 21:14 BST (UK) »
So are we thinking that William remarried when Ellen went into the Workhouse in 1898?  ???

Looks like there are multiple William Thomas Lamkins in the area, of similar age. Perhaps it's not him in 1899?  ??? William and Ellen and living together in the 1911 Census and 1920 Electoral Roll at Church Lane, Bearsted, so perhaps the 1899 marriage is a different William.

Glen, Please do not dismiss this marriage, reasons below.

1. Between 1850-1860 only 1 William Lamkin is born in Kent.
2. 1861 & 1871 census have William with his parents James & Mercy. On both occasions James is either a boot and shoe maker/ shoemaker.
3. William Thomas joined the army in 1877 aged 19 years and 5 months-details on his joining and subsequent joining are on Findmypast. Probably abroad for 1881 census
4 The marriage in 1899 details his father as James Lamkin occupation "Shoemaker"

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #33 on: Friday 16 July 21 21:33 BST (UK) »
Another of William's daughters marriage's

Marriages Jun 1905 
Lamkin    Ellen        Lambeth    1d   846     (This is Eva Ellen Lamkin)
TURNER    Herbert John    Lambeth    1d   846   

1911 census shows her pob as Maidstone Kent

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Added  21.49 pm --Eva Ellen on 1939 register dob 19.1.1886

and probable death

Deaths Sep 1960   
TURNER    Eva E    74    Lewisham    5d   64
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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #34 on: Friday 16 July 21 23:24 BST (UK) »
Another of William's daughters marriage's

Marriages Jun 1905 
Lamkin    Ellen        Lambeth    1d   846     (This is Eva Ellen Lamkin)
TURNER    Herbert John    Lambeth    1d   846   

1911 census shows her pob as Maidstone Kent

John

Added  21.49 pm --Eva Ellen on 1939 register dob 19.1.1886

and probable death

Deaths Sep 1960   
TURNER    Eva E    74    Lewisham    5d   64

Good find John

Herbert John Turner
Rank:   Corporal
Regimental Number:   3419
Regiment or Ship:   London Regiment
Birth Date:   6 Apr 1884
Birth Place:   South Lambeth, S E
Marriage Date:   23 Jun 1905
Marriage Place:   Springfield Hall, Wandsworth Road, S W
Death Date:   25 Jan 1916
Death Place:   Loos
Father:   William John Turner
Mother:   Jessie Rymill
Spouse:   Eva Ellen (dau of William Thomas) , 3 children John, Lucy & Olive
Volume:   Volume 3
UK, De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour, 1914-1919

Herbert John Turner,
Rank:   Cpl
Record Type:   Card
Death Date:   25 Jan 1916
Service Number:   3419,
Corps, Regiment or Unit:   Co Of London 1/24th
Title:   WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description:   Other Ranks Died Turner EA-Turner J
Reference Number:   X1/APW/11571
Next of Kin:   

Ellen Turner,   Widow
Olive Ellen Turner,   Child 16 May 1906
Lucy Minnie Turner,   Child 2 Oct 1907
John Ernest Turner,   Child 12 Jul 1910

The 1907 marriage posted for Minnie Lamkin to Frederick Ashford
witnesses were a Herbert John Turner & Ada Eliza Turner, Ada is Herbertís sister

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 17 July 21 07:20 BST (UK) »
Deaths Mar 1931
Lamkin    Amelia E(Ellen on gro record)    72    Sevenoaks    2a   1327

Sevenoaks Chronicle & Kentish Advertiser dated 20th February 1931.

A detailed account of Amelia's funeral and those attending etc.
Article mentions she is the widow of the late Mr W Lamkin and confirms a lot of Ladyhawk's and my findings.
Available to view on Findmypast.

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