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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 17 July 21 09:47 BST (UK) »
Their daughter Caroline Lamkin marries Archibald Frederick Shepherd in 1913 but then seems to vanish  ???

Do you mean Caroline or Archibald or both?

Believe Archibald appears as married in 1939 dob 27.9.1886 in Wycombe. Died sep q 1961 aged 74 in Wycombe.
Cannot find a birth registration/baptism for Archibald Frederick Sheperd but does appear on 1891/1901 census with parents James and Emma.

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 17 July 21 12:49 BST (UK) »
Ive following this thread with great interest as I know Bearsted well. I was wondering what happened to Mabel's sibllings, as only she was with her mother in the workhouse.
William Thomas 1884-1884
Ellen and Minnie were admitted into school 12.5.1893
Caroline I can only find on the 1911
and Elsie died 1898-1898
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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 17 July 21 14:48 BST (UK) »
Bingo (I think)

1901 census ref RG13 278 139 21

Joseph Smith  34 Carman born Whitechaple
Ellen Smith 38 born Rochester Kent--as per her pob in 1911 census
Mabel Smith 6 born Stratford. The West Ham birth registration would be a very strong bet.

So in 1901 we have Ellen living with Joseph and daughter, William Lamkin probably (bigomously marrying)Sarah Ann Lee nee' Cox (or if your separeted for 7 years then free to marry?? not sure on that). Their respective partners either die or move on and they reunite for the 1911 census--I just love fairy stories

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 17 July 21 16:38 BST (UK) »
Bingo (I think)

1901 census ref RG13 278 139 21

Joseph Smith  34 Carman born Whitechaple
Ellen Smith 38 born Rochester Kent--as per her pob in 1911 census
Mabel Smith 6 born Stratford. The West Ham birth registration would be a very strong bet.


Great find John

I've just found this whilst looking for some other info.....

Surname is LANGLEY on the original entry of 1891 census

Is this the LAMKIN’s and is Joseph H SMITH the same person as the Joseph Smith on the 1901 census with Ellen & Mabel

There’s no Lily Amelia born 1881 with William & Amelia  :-\

1891 Piece:   354 Folio:   12 Page 22
59 Paragon Build.
William T LANGLEY   1857 Bearstead, occ Bricklayers labourer
Amelia H    1859 Bearstead
Eva H    1886 Bearstead
Minnie    1888 Wimbledon
Joseph H SMITH   1867 Whitechapel
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QHRM-VN2

1892 London Electoral Register
William Thomas LAMKIN address 59 Paragon Buildings

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1901 census for William Lamkin & Sarah A

RG13; Piece: 441; Folio: 131; Page: 28

William LAMKIN born 1857 occupation is labourer bricklayer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9C4-1YZ

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 17 July 21 18:37 BST (UK) »
Ladyhawk, another great find. Lily Amelia Langley died mq 1891 aged 9 so will not be on the 1891 census.

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 17 July 21 18:57 BST (UK) »
Positive that Joseph H & Joseph are the same person. Both 1891/1901 have him born Whitechaple.

Beginning to doubt that Caroline Lamkin born 1892 is William's daughter.

Ladyhawk you like a challenge. 1901 census ref 29 127 34. On this is a Caroline Smith aged "about 10" and is a niece. of Elizabeth Holmes. Also there is a Jessie Mary Holmes( jq 1900)who's mmn is Smith.
Is Elizabeth Smith the sister to Joseph H/Joseph Smith. Above these is a William Cox. When William Thomas Lamkin married Sarah Ann Lee nee' Cox her father is recorded as George Cox occ Brewer's Labourer
So is William Cox the brother of George Cox and is he Sarah Ann Lee/Cox uncle. My head is mince at present. Sarah Ann Cox married Edward Lee sq 1871 Bethnal Green, her father George Cox deceased.

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 17 July 21 20:28 BST (UK) »
Positive that Joseph H & Joseph are the same person. Both 1891/1901 have him born Whitechaple.

Beginning to doubt that Caroline Lamkin born 1892 is William's daughter.

Ladyhawk you like a challenge. 1901 census ref 29 127 34.

On this is a Caroline Smith aged "about 10" and is a niece. of Elizabeth Holmes. Also there is a Jessie Mary Holmes( jq 1900)who's mmn is Smith.
Is Elizabeth Smith the sister to Joseph H/Joseph Smith. Above these is a William Cox.

When William Thomas Lamkin married Sarah Ann Lee nee' Cox her father is recorded as George Cox occ Brewer's Labourer

So is William Cox the brother of George Cox and is he Sarah Ann Lee/Cox uncle. My head is mince at present. Sarah Ann Cox married Edward Lee sq 1871 Bethnal Green, her father George Cox deceased.



Hi John - this maybe one challenge too far but who knows......

I have just found this - is this the same Sarah Ann?

Marriage 4 Aug 1885 St Peter, Walworth, Southwark
Sarah Ann LEE widow
father George COX (dec’d) brewer
Spouse:   George SMITH widower, father William dec’d
Witnesses Charles & Agnes Godfrey (Agnes made her mark)

Have a look to see what you think as Sarah Ann Lee’s signature looks to be the same as on her 1899 m/c to William Thomas Lamkin

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 17 July 21 20:59 BST (UK) »

Beginning to doubt that Caroline Lamkin born 1892 is William's daughter.

1901 census ref 29 127 34.

On this is a Caroline Smith aged "about 10" and is a niece. of Elizabeth Holmes.

Also there is a Jessie Mary Holmes( jq 1900)who's mmn is Smith.

   
Jessie Mary Holmes
Baptism 3 Jun 1900 born 20th March Hampstead St Cuthbert, Camden, England
Father:   Christopher Frederick Holmes, Ostler Mother:   Elizabeth Ann

Marriage    1 Jan 1900 Christ Church, Notting Hill, Kensington and Chelsea
Christopher Frederick Holmes age 23 Ostler
father James, Plater
Spouse:   Elizabeth SMITH 23 father John Jeffery? Smith, bricklayer

Christopher Holmes appears to be with his parents on 1901 census age 24 ‘M’ stableman groom

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Re: Marriage - Maidstone - 1915 (Stevens & Smith)
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 17 July 21 21:16 BST (UK) »
Have a look to see what you think as Sarah Ann Lee’s signature looks to be the same as on her 1899 m/c to William Thomas Lamkin

In my opinion there's no doubt--but I did get the name Else instead of Eke ;D


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