Harold DUNN & Annie Louisa Isabel WARE

[sparrett]

I think I understand also the the step grand daughter is suggesting the name of-
her mother's father
 or
her father's father was a man named- Harold DUNN

 Sue

[Cienna]

I'm still confused......

Annie Louisa WARE: parents: Harold Albert WARE and Eliza BENTLEY

Husbands:

Cyril David JONES (dec WW1)

John William SMITH, (Annie left John and went to reside with Harold DUNN)

Harold DUNN

Now that we are all confused, the lady I am helping has asked me not to continue.....

Thank you to all whom have answered.

Cienna.

[sparrett]

Ok.
That's fine.  Maybe another time
Sue

[Dundee]

Electoral rolls

1925 - 1931
60 Bellair St, Newmarket
John William SMITH, cigar maker
Louisa Isabella SMITH, home duties

1937
30 Boundary Rd, Newmarket
Harold Patrick DUNN, Labourer
Louisa Isabella SMITH, home duties

1943/1949/1954
32 Boundary Rd, Newmarket
Harold Patrick DUNN, Labourer
Louisa Isabella SMITH, home duties

Debra 

[Cienna]

Hi Debra,

Thank you, this info is really helpful, at least now I have a middle name for Harold DUNN....thank you again.

Regards

Cienna

[sparrett]

Well, even more than that thanks to Debra's excellent hunting, you now have a clearer timeline of DUNN's appearance in the life of A L I nee WARE.

One of the name Harold Patrick DUNN died in Mildura.

Sue

ADDING
For your interest and  future reference, the spelling form ISOBEL will assist in your searches.

[Essie]

Actually, one SMITH son was named Harold Henry, born 1920, reg #31140.

Essie

[sparrett]

John William SMITH died near Kyabram aged 69 .
Father John Oli SMITH.(sic) Mother Florence An Eager (sic)
Year 1968. Reg 831.

This death certificate would further answer your questions and perhaps confirm or otherwise, a second marriage.

During his early life, he and his siblings apparently lived mostly  in the Carlton area of Melbourne.
It looks like sometimes their father was with them, sometimes not.
Perhaps the marriage between Florence and John Oliver was a rocky relationship, but the electoral rolls show them at both separate and at shared addresses.

Florence filed for financial support in 1900 after John Oliver SMITH deserted her.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/241248276

The last of the registered children I can see is in 1905 Victoria.  The first to Florence being ex-nuptial in 1895.

Sue

[Poppylee]

Hi Sarah, I know it’s been 12 months since all this information above was spoken of; however, for some reason I have only just come across it and I wanted to share it with the Step granddaughter. Cienna said she was helping.

I am a granddaughter of Annie Louisa Isabel Ware. Nanna changed her name around a lot as she "hated the name Annie, which was also her mothers name" Nannas youngest brother at the time of her passing said he never knew her first name was Annie as everyone always called her Louie.

Nanna did marry Cyril Jones at St Albans church Armadale on the 29th March 1916 and sadly Cyril was KIA at Fromelles 19th July 1916.

Nanna married John William Smith at St James Manse Fitzroy on 11 Jan 1919 and they had six children, my mother was the youngest before Uncle Pat came along by Pop (Harold Dunn).
John William Smith is buried at Lancefield cemetery. My dad drove Uncle reg (John William Smiths eldest son) to Lancefield to organise the funeral.

Nanna lived with Harold (Pop) and as mentioned, they had one son Patrick Dennis Smith as mentioned above. I believe there was a twelve-year age difference between Nanna and Harold, if Harold’s age is correct on the plaque at the cemetery. Nanna was born on the 25th April 1896 and Harold, going by the plaque of his death being 66 in 1974 makes his birth around 1908.
 Nanna left Pop (Harold) the day Uncle Pat was married. Mum has fond memories of Pop (Harold) and loved their time growing up around Hurstbridge on the outskirts of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; however, his history is difficult to follow, and my understanding is, the mother he thought was his, wasn't.
Pop Harold Dunn died 23 Aug 1974 at 66 which would make his birth around 1908; and he is buried at Nichols Point Cemetery, Mildura. I know this to be true as my mum and her stepbrother Patrick Dennis Smith visited to lay flowers.
If what I have written doesn’t break any rules, I am happy for it to be forwarded to the step granddaughter and would love to know more on the Dunn side if she feels comfortable to share.

Kind Regards
Lee