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Cannot find any service records of soldier
« on: Friday 16 July 21 03:58 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone,

For many years now I have been piecing together bits of information regarding my great-grandad to get a better idea of who he was as my grandads memory is starting to fail him.

I have all the information I want on him except service records / any information tying him to the second world war besides a photograph my grandad remembers.

Name: George Ernest Williams
D.O.B: 21 May 1920
Place: Shoreditch, London, England
D.O.D: 27 Jan 1992
Place: Islington, London, England

He married a Winifred Alger in 1942.

My grandad and I would like to find out anything about his life in WW2 as he can only remember a photograph of him with a German Shepard.
I have posted looking for information before back in 2015/16 on numerous sites but to no avail.

Thank you,
Jordan

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Re: Cannot find any service records of soldier
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 July 21 04:41 BST (UK) »
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Cannot find any service records of soldier
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 July 21 04:51 BST (UK) »
Have you read this FAQ?

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0

I have had a browse. I understand that many records are not available but I find it strange how there is not a single record on Ancestry, etc.
At least one of my gt-uncle's records was on Ancestry, but only revealed the corps he was in which eventually helped me gather more information, however, in this case, there has not been any information in the 6 years i've been looking... maybe I'm looking at the wrong places (I don' t have memberships to Forces War Records and other sites).

Or perhaps a member here has knowledge on what personnel had Alsatians/German Shepherds.


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Re: Cannot find any service records of soldier
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 July 21 04:57 BST (UK) »
There are no English WW2 records available online. As it says in that FAQ.   You have to apply for them from the MOD. You donít need the service number, but you do need to provide proof of death, pay £30 and wait a long time.

Added. Donít pay anything for the Forces website. There is no extra information there.
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Cannot find any service records of soldier
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 July 21 06:22 BST (UK) »
Have you read this FAQ?

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0
Or perhaps a member here has knowledge on what personnel had Alsatians/German Shepherds.

My first thought, would be Military Police (Army) or Service Police (RAF).
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
Naylor/Nailor, Lyons, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire
Redfern. Cheshire/Derbyshire
LeFebvere, Lincolnshire

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Re: Cannot find any service records of soldier
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 July 21 08:09 BST (UK) »

Surely if Jordans grandfather is still alive he can request his service record himself.  There is a downloadable form on the govt website.
All census lookups are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Sussex - Knapp. Nailard. Potten. Coleman. Pomfrey. Carter. Picknell
Greenwich/Woolwich. - Clowting. Davis. Kitts. Ferguson. Lowther. Carvalho. Pressman. Redknap. Argent.
Hertfordshire - Sturgeon. Bird. Rule. Claxton. Taylor. Braggins

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Re: Cannot find any service records of soldier
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 July 21 08:45 BST (UK) »


He married a Winifred Alger in 1942.


On the Marriage Certificate, what was His Occupation, Civilian or Military ?

If Civilian, was His Occupation at the time of Marriage, considered as a Reserve Occupation ?

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https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/private-lives/yourcountry/overview/conscriptionww2/
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
Naylor/Nailor, Lyons, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire
Redfern. Cheshire/Derbyshire
LeFebvere, Lincolnshire

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Re: Cannot find any service records of soldier
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 July 21 09:44 BST (UK) »

Surely if Jordans grandfather is still alive he can request his service record himself.  There is a downloadable form on the govt website.

It's the great grandfather that they are looking for  :)
Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes,  Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker,  in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Cannot find any service records of soldier
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 July 21 10:40 BST (UK) »

Surely if Jordans grandfather is still alive he can request his service record himself.  There is a downloadable form on the govt website.

It's the great grandfather that they are looking for  :)

Apologies, my mistake.
All census lookups are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Sussex - Knapp. Nailard. Potten. Coleman. Pomfrey. Carter. Picknell
Greenwich/Woolwich. - Clowting. Davis. Kitts. Ferguson. Lowther. Carvalho. Pressman. Redknap. Argent.
Hertfordshire - Sturgeon. Bird. Rule. Claxton. Taylor. Braggins