James Murray born ca 1805 61st & 87th Regiments

[josey]

Adding reg Nos - Philip No 1053 in 87th, Daniel No 1054 in 87th, John No 32 in 61st.

No location for pension issue on John's discharge in 1845 so I don't know where he went.

[Neale1961]

1851 census for James and family
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5f6dcc0cf4040b1b5831f25c/james-murray-1851-aberdeenshire-aberdeen-1809-?locale=en

Josey, I have been looking again for the 2 girls from the 1851 census who are children from James' second marriage.
There is a possible for them and their mother remarried in
1861 census:
2 Castle Court, Dundee
•   John REID – Head - 33 – born Ireland, Chelsea Pensioner ? (very poor Ancestry transcription reads “Chalsay Pentraner 8 Fefool”)
•   Jean REID – wife – 34 - born Ireland
•   Elizabeth MURRAY – 15 - stepdaughter – born Perth, Flax spinner
•   Mary Ann MURRAY – 13 - stepdaughter – born Aberdeen, Flax spinner

[josey]

Aha, thank you. I bought the actual image and John Reid is Chelsea Pensioner 87th Foot so these are highly likely to be James' children. Thank you. I will definitely see if I can follow them up. By co-incidence, James snr's brother Philip [my ancestor] was in Dundee in 1846 when his son was born.

[Neale1961]

I didn’t have time to look, but it should be possible to find a marriage for John Reid and a Jane/ Jean, between James Murray’s death and 1861.

[josey]

I did actually just look and downloaded 2 images for likely area marriages but both brides were spinsters. There were no marriages of John Reid with bride indexed under Jane/Jean Murray.

[Neale1961]

In Scotland, i would not expect her to remarry as Murray, but under her maiden name.

Which names have you tried? Did you try Jane ROLLO 1856 in Dundee?

[josey]

Sorry for delay - got a phone call!! Thank you , yes I did, 1 Jul 1856 Jane Rollo was 24 millworker spinster, John 26 widower flax worker; also Rattray 21 Nov 1858 Jean Crichton 21 flax spinner spinster, John 18 joiner.

Maybe I'd be better trying to follow Elizabeth & Mary Ann?

[Forfarian]

Sorry for delay - got a phone call!! Thank you , yes I did, 1 Jul 1856 Jane Rollo was 24 millworker spinster, John 26 widower flax worker; also Rattray 21 Nov 1858 Jean Crichton 21 flax spinner spinster, John 18 joiner.

What about Jane Munro in Aberdeen St Nicholas in 1859?

[josey]

Will try that one now, Forfarian thank you.

ADDED: 15 Oct 1859 Jane Munro 25 cotton mill operative spinster John Reid 23 baker bachelor.

ADDED 2; HOWEVER....I have found Mary Ann's marriage; 26 Apr 1866 Catholic Chapel Dundee 1st Mary Ann Murray 18 spinster of 2 Castle Court d/o James Murray soldier deceased & Josephine [ ] Reid previously Murray MS Morton to John Small 22 blacksmith bachelor witnesses James Morris & ELISA MURRAY