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Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« on: Sunday 18 July 21 10:27 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone!

I'm really struggling with an ancestor from Sheffield with the maiden name of Eliza Bradshaw (born approx 1830). I know that she married John Ryalls in 1853 in Sheffield, and since she married John, I know everything about her (i.e. 1861 census and beyond, her children, death, burial place, etc.). However, I cannot find out anything about her from before this!

I have found the parish record of her marriage, which states that her dad is called George Bradshaw and that he's a steel refiner. It doesn't say anything about him being deceased, so presumably he is still alive. From census records from 1861 and beyond, it consistently says that her birthplace is Sheffield, Yorkshire.

However, when looking at the 1851 and 1841 censuses, there is no Eliza Bradshaw with a George Bradshaw as a father in Sheffield. Or, at least, none that I've been able to find. In the 1851 census, I've actually only found one Eliza Bradshaw in Sheffield with the birth date approx 1830 (apparently living with her brothers and aunt on Meadow Street), and I'm pretty confident that she's not the correct Eliza Bradshaw since I've found the same one in the 1861 census.

So, I can't find ANY Eliza Bradshaw in 1851 and none that match with a father called George in 1841 either! I also can't find any baptism records for Eliza with a father called George.

I am wondering whether it is possible that the name George has been incorrectly named on the parish record. This is because that John Ryalls' father was also called George, and obviously human error can cause mistakes. Does anyone know if I order the marriage certificate, is it likely to be a copy of the parish record?

Otherwise, I'm completely at a loss with how to proceed with working out who Eliza was before marrying John. Any help is appreciated!

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Re: Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 July 21 10:56 BST (UK) »
There is a family living at 42 Furnival Street (Furnival Street on marriage cert given as Eliza s address)
head George Ibbotson and wife Deborah, they have a daughter Eliza Ibbotson aged 22. George is a steel burner.

There is a baptism  at Sheffield cathedral Church of St Peter and Paul 22th feb 1829  for an Eliza Bradshaw , mother Deborah (spinster)
Marriage 13th Dec 1829 , same church, Deborah Bradshaw and George ibbotson.
I wonder if this might be Eliza, who married under surname she was born with.

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Re: Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 July 21 10:59 BST (UK) »
  You beat me to it cath151, just about to post the same info!
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Re: Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 July 21 11:04 BST (UK) »
A possibility?
1851. Elizabeth Bradshaw. 12. Living in household of
Thomas and Elizabeth Platts, Coulston Street, Sheffield. Ref HO107,  1335/11, page 15. ( Family Search)

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Re: Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 July 21 11:04 BST (UK) »
Wow!!! You are absolute wizards. Thank you so much!

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Re: Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 July 21 11:16 BST (UK) »
This might help?

Eliza BRADSHAW   Baptism   22 Feb 1829   Yorkshire, West Riding   Sheffield: St Peter and St Paul : Parish Register

Mother Deborah a spinster

OOPS already posted.

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Re: Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 July 21 11:20 BST (UK) »
You all type too quickly, I was just going to suggest the same!

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Re: Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 July 21 11:21 BST (UK) »
Great minds....... :)
Cathy
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Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Eliza Bradshaw - Parish/BMD Marriage Certificate
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 July 21 11:23 BST (UK) »
Haha everyone is on the ball today.. thanks again everyone, you've all been a great help  :) really got to think out of the box sometimes!