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Noted for Novel
« on: Sunday 18 July 21 13:26 BST (UK) »
One of my relatives who was killed in WW1 has his pension card stamped with the phrase "Noted for Novel" I have tried searching but cannot find what this means. Does anyone know.

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Re: Noted for Novel
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 July 21 13:33 BST (UK) »
Can you give a link so we can see the original words?

Just to be sure/ get a second opinion.

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Re: Noted for Novel
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 July 21 13:55 BST (UK) »
I've had a poke about on google and I wonder if it is related to the law in any way?

https://www.easylawlookup.com/Legal-Dictionary/Novels/_easylookup.blp?data=PROBAT2&site=EASY&location=76633&sidfw=&spon=&dictitem=novels

The below website shows quite a number of examples of this Noted for Novel phrase.

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/275383-widows-pension-noted-for-novel/

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Noted for Novel
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 July 21 16:03 BST (UK) »
Someone else stumped by the meaning of this phrase:

...However, the intriguing aspect of this card are the words "noted for novel" which are stamped on the card. The meaning of this phrase remains a mystery. This phrase appears quite regularly on these cards. Anyone who can suggest what this may refer to is invited to contact me on the email mentioned above...
www.westernfrontassociation.com/world-war-i-articles/pension-record-cards-claims-for-soldiers-who-were-killed/

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Re: Noted for Novel
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 July 21 16:57 BST (UK) »
Here is a copy of the record

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Re: Noted for Novel
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 July 21 17:05 BST (UK) »
What I noticed about ones where children's names appeared was that payment stops when they reach the age of 16.

Perhaps another suggestion that this is a legal thing?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Noted for Novel
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 July 21 17:32 BST (UK) »
The ministry of pensions was formed in 1916 to take over the payment of pensions to soldiers, maybe it refers to the possibility of change when the new ministry got round to it.

Although officers wives and children were well provided for, not so widows of ordinary soldiers, who had to almost prove that they were honest upright citizens deserving of a pension.

Some war widows were seemingly reported by their neighbours on suspicion of cohabiting.

It was a big social issue at the time, and reviewing the huge number of claims and clearing the backlog took a long long time
Novel seems to refer to upcoming legislation not yet implemented, tho it has different meanings in some countries.


Mind, better brains than mine have tried to answer this question :)

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Re: Noted for Novel
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 July 21 08:21 BST (UK) »
I've found an interesting discussion with lots of examples on the Greatwarforum.
https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/275383-widows-pension-noted-for-novel/
Some cards are stamped with a rubber stamp, others have Noted for Novel handwritten and on some it is abbreviated to N/N. There doesn't seem to be a definitive answer.