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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 July 21 22:58 BST (UK) »
It does all seem to work out with the names and parish records.
I am just a bit bothered about the places and just wish Salmonford would turn up somewhere  :)


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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 31 July 21 14:10 BST (UK) »

There is a baptism for Bridget (Brigida) Reed, 24th February 1860 with parents Michael Reed and Mary Ruan. The residence is Salmonford.

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632291#page/6/mode/1up


Marriage January 1848
Michael Reed and Mary Ruan. Witnesses Dominic Reed and Patrick Ruan.
It is poor writing and in Latin
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632289#page/47/mode/1up


Also baptised Feb. 1860 was Catherine RUAN (entry 21), abode Salmonford. Parents' names not clear. Father could be Guillemus, Latin for William. Mother was Mary (COLMAN?)

Searching for other baptisms with Salmonford abode found very few.
Another 1860 Anna O'Donnell, born & baptised September.
1861 Patrick Regan
1864 Michael Rioctt ?. Could it be a variant of Roche?
1865 Michael O'Donnell and Ann Rocth?, both April.
1867 Luke Willan?
I saw none for 1866, 1868,1869,1870.
There was also a Hawksford in the baptism register.

Salmonford may have been a small townland or part of a townland or an old name or one used by locals. I wondered if it may have been a translation or mis-translation of an Irish name. Salmon is bradan. Salmonford might be ath bradan, salmon's leap, leim na bradan (or something like it, my Irish is basic & rusty). Can't find any places which resemble those words.
I assumed, from abodes on his children's birth registrations, (Swinford district), that my great-uncle moved around. Not so; he remained in the same townland from his marriage to death, his part of it was known by various names.

Marriage register, a few entries above Michael Reed & Mary Ruan was marriage of Michael Ryan & Anna Ruan.
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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 31 July 21 15:06 BST (UK) »

There is a baptism for Bridget (Brigida) Reed, 24th February 1860 with parents Michael Reed and Mary Ruan. The residence is Salmonford.

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632291#page/6/mode/1up


Searching for other baptisms with Salmonford abode found very few.
Another 1860 Anna O'Donnell, born & baptised September.

1864 Michael Rioctt ?. Could it be a variant of Roche?
1865 Michael O'Donnell and Ann Rocth?, both April.
1867 Luke Willan?


Trying to match baptisms of those Salmonford babies born 1864 and after with their birth registrations found 2. Both Castlerea Superintendent Registrar's District, Ballaghadereen District.
Abode for both was Boholis, Ballaghadereen.
Michael O'Donnell, born April 1865, parents Hugh & Catherine (Lynch). Father's occupation landholder.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/birts_1865/03569/2314843.pdf
The 1867 baptism I read as Luke Willan was Luke Dillon, born 3rd Jan. 1867, parents Pat & Mary (Callaghan)
I couldn't find a birth registration in Castlerea for Michael Rioctt? 1864 or Ann Racth? 1865.
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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 31 July 21 15:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maiden Stone.
I too searched and thought like you about Salmonford.
William Ruane states Hawksford as his birthplace in 1881 and Thomas Patrick Read shows ‘Boh..’ which is transcribed as Bohola.

It may well be but there is a Dominic Reed in Griffiths Valuation in Bohalas, Castlemore Parish.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qsy/
Previous entry is Ruan.

When I was searching the other day, I was hesitant as some of these places are now more towards Ballaghderreen. There were changes to county boundaries, I think late 1890s but not sure and that is now Roscommon.
I decided to leave the searches but it would be good if you could find or match anything.  :)

Added
I was writing and posting this as you posted so we are on the same track.
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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 31 July 21 15:51 BST (UK) »
Hi both, can't thank you enough for your help so far.

I did find this on a discover Mayo message board:
https://www.mayo-ireland.ie/en/roots/view-message.html?mid=9880

This backs up heywood's suggestion that Salmonford may be an alternative name for Cloonturk.

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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 31 July 21 16:09 BST (UK) »
That’s great  :)
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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 01 August 21 12:38 BST (UK) »

I did find this on a discover Mayo message board:
https://www.mayo-ireland.ie/en/roots/view-message.html?mid=9880

This backs up heywood's suggestion that Salmonford may be an alternative name for Cloonturk.

It says it was a name used by locals. Salmonford in Boholas may also have been a name used only by locals which may explain why it was Salmonford in the baptism register and Boholas in the births register. 

Another Reed baby:
John Reed baptised 3rd March 1865, parents Pat & Mary (Colman), abode Boholis?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632291#page/38/mode/1up
(There were 2 more Salmonford babies + a Hawkford one on same page. Hawkford seems an odd name to me as birds don't need a ford to cross water.)
I couldn't find a birth registration of a John Reed which matched that baptism but there was a Dominick born March 1865, parents Pat & Mary (Coleman), abode Boholis?, father's occupation farmer. Castlerea Superintendent Registrar's District, Ballaghadereen District.
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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 01 August 21 13:06 BST (UK) »
Bohalas townland, County Roscommon
https://townlands.ie/roscommon/frenchpark/castlemore/ballaghaderreen/bohalas/
Civil parish Castlemore. Area of Bohalas townland is just under 500 acres. Hawksford is an adjacent townland of a similar size. Map has about a dozen buildings. There are 2 paths which converge and lead to a river or stream. Could this be Salmonford? River Owenlobnaghlaur is nearby.

Added. Looking at another map. A road from L1244 goes through Bohalas townland and also fords the stream near what seems to be the largest building. The stream is a tributary of Owenlobnaghaur river.
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Re: Reid family Swinford
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 01 August 21 13:33 BST (UK) »
Great research  :)
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