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Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« on: Monday 26 July 21 17:05 BST (UK) »
Hello

If I am not mistaken Mandy Rice Davies is descended from Ann Stone 1811 of Danyquarry, Five Roads and John Rice William’s (1805-1893). However, there is some confusion over her parentage, particularly her mother. With someone so famous I thought it would have been resolved but apparently not and there is conflicting information on-line.

There seems to be no disputing her father is Ronald Woodford Rice Davies (1914-1997). However, her mother is most trees is listed as Eluned Jones and birth place as Pontyates which does not fit the available facts.

Ronald marries Margaret G Davies in 1939 in Flintshire and up until 1943 he was a police officer in Birmingham. On line trees state Marilyn/Mandy was born 21 Oct born 1944, with most people having her born Pontyates. However, possible births that match in the register are Dec Qtr 1844:

Davies    Marilyn R    Lewis    Mere    5a   378    
Davies    Marilyn R    Lewis    Merthyr T.    11a   984

Some state Mere (Wiltshire) is the correct one. So the facts indicate a birthplace of Mere rather than Pontyates and a mother with surname Lewis not Jones or Davies.

Ronald does appear to marry an Eluned but an Eluned Lewis, not Jones, and not until 1965 in Watford.

There is also a possible divorce involved as his first wife has JACOBS written above her surname in the 1939 register.

It’s all very confusing. Does someone know her correct parentage?

Thank you

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Re: Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 July 21 17:44 BST (UK) »
I cannot view the complete entry, but the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography states :

Davies , Marilyn Rice ( known as Mandy Rice-Davies ) was born 21 Oct 1944 at The Lynch, Mere , Wiltshire , daughter of Ronald Woodford Rice Davies and Eluned Lewis , nee Jones

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Re: Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 July 21 18:05 BST (UK) »
I cannot view the complete entry, but the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography states :

Davies , Marilyn Rice ( known as Mandy Rice-Davies ) was born 21 Oct 1944 at The Lynch, Mere , Wiltshire , daughter of Ronald Woodford Rice Davies and Eluned Lewis , nee Jones

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qsg/

Thank you, that sounds very promising, it sounds like the full article will give all the details

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Re: Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 July 21 22:24 BST (UK) »
Ronald Woodford Rice Davies was born on 29 September 1914 in Pontiets, Carmarthenshire and died in Solihull where he was a policeman.

Ronald  married Eluned Davies who was born 3rd April 1908.

They had two children of which Marilyn was the elder. She was born on 21st October 1944 in Mere, Wiltshire.


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Re: Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 July 21 22:45 BST (UK) »
Ronald Woodford Rice Davies was born on 29 September 1914 in Pontiets, Carmarthenshire and died in Solihull where he was a policeman.

Ronald  married Eluned Davies who was born 3rd April 1908.

They had two children of which Marilyn was the elder. She was born on 21st October 1944 in Mere, Wiltshire.

That he married an Eluned Davies does not match marriage records or his police record on line at ancestry. The attached is the entry from 1943

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Re: Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 July 21 22:55 BST (UK) »
I have a copy of the STONE family tree which I was told was compiled by a researcher employed by Mandy herself.

I just quoted from that.

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Re: Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 July 21 22:58 BST (UK) »
Margaret was Ronald’s second wife and they had a child called Olivia Rice Davies born in 1941 in Trethyn, Flintshire.

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Re: Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 July 21 23:08 BST (UK) »
Margaret was Ronald’s second wife and they had a child called Olivia Rice Davies born in 1941 in Trethyn, Flintshire.

Thanks. Was Eluned his 3rd wife then? It’s all a bit confusing. As on 28 June 1843 (see previous attachment) his police record still shows him married to Margaret G Davies. What date does the tree give for the marriage to Eluned Davies? If he married Eluned Davies why does the birth record in the GRO show the mother’s maiden name as Lewis. None of it matches up?!


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Re: Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 July 21 09:50 BST (UK) »
Davies    Marilyn R    Lewis    Merthyr T.    11a   984

could be her death in 1948 age 3

Davies    Marilyn Rose      Merthyr T.    8b   297


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