Marylin (Mandy) Rice Davies 1944

[heywood]

Interesting record in 1939
William J Lewis with ‘Elvner’ (transcription) living in Glamorgan.

We are not allowed to give much detail but there is a further date and amendment.

[roycymru]

Interesting record in 1939
William J Lewis with ‘Elvner’ (transcription) living in Glamorgan.

We are not allowed to give much detail but there is a further date and amendment.

A very interesting find. Great spot! Elvner could well be Eluned. Surname is Lewis, later crossed out and replaced by Davies. There is also a daughter Margaret Lewis who would have be 16 in 1944 and therefore possibly the step sister Margaret age 16 mentioned in the autobiography.

There is also a son Merlin Lewis born 1930, which must be

Lewis Merlin J (Jones) Pontypridd  11a 919

This would also tie in with the marriage posted earlier

1926 Q Dec
Eluned Jones and William J Lewis     Pontypridd 11a 977

Therefore supposition at this point is Eluned Jones married William J Lewis in 1926. They had a daughter Margaret in 1928 and son Merlin in 1930 (step sister and brother) to Marylin/Mandy. Eluned Lewis (nee Jones) was Mandy’s mother, possibly conceived while Ronald was still married to Margaret G Davies.

Davies    Marilyn R    (Lewis)   Mere    5a   378     

Ronald and Eluned may have later lived together as husband and wife but did not officially marry until 1965.

Please feel free to disagree!

[Dundee]

I have a copy of the STONE family tree which I was told was compiled by a researcher employed by Mandy herself.

I just quoted from that.

This would be concerning if the researcher was a professional but the brief was probably just to research back from Ronald and disregard the identity of her mother.

If he married Eluned Davies why does the birth record in the GRO show the mother’s maiden name as Lewis. None of it matches up?!

They weren't married at the time of the birth so  if Eluned was her mother then her name was probably recorded as just Eluned LEWIS, which was her surname at the time, but not her maiden surname.

Following on from the notation for Eluned in 1939.

The London Gazette
Publication date:
15 September 1944
Issue:    36703
Page:    4291

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36703/page/4291

NOTICE is hereby given that ELUNED LEWIS of The Lynch, Mere, in the county of Wiltshire, wife of William John Lewis a natural born British subject resident in the United Kingdom on the date of the coming into force of Regulation 20 of the Defence (General) Regulations 1939, intends after the expiration of twenty-one days from the date of publication of this notice to assume the surname of Davies. Dated the 5th day of September 1944.

Regulation 20 was just that all changes of name had to be published in the London Gazette for the duration of the war.

Debra 

[lisalisa]

Gosh that's an interesting find Debra, that seems like the final piece of the puzzle.  How interesting.

[roycymru]

That is a fantastic find.

I doubt very much if the researcher had the benefit of the internet, we are very fortunate to have it.

This is likely to be the belated marriage of him and Eluned, but under her Williams married name

DAVIES RONALD W R and LEWIS Eluned WATFORD 4B   1026

Perhaps using Lewis rather than her “known as” surname of Davies was just another smoke screen in the scheme of things.

Thank you to everyone for their contribution on this, they have all helped solved the puzzle, this is why I love Rootschat so much, the seemingly unsolvable becomes solvable. Well done everyone!

Roy

[heywood]

Great find and good to see a conclusion 

[prayirving]

Regarding Mandy being recorded as being born in Mere-this is near Salisbury Plain which is an army training ground. As her father was in the 8th Army (according to her autobiography) it is possible her father was stationed there in 1944 with Margaret living nearby.

One of the posts refers to two children being born to Ronald's first wife-Margaret who lived with the later marriage and a son called Merlin. Mandy states in her autobiography the the son did not live with her parents in the second marriage