William Thomas Butterworth last record Lambeth 1913

[colee]

Yes, but weird though that the children listed are not children he had with Sarah Ellen, none of those children are listed. I haven't come across a Florence daughter that he had, but it might be worth investigating as it's a fairly unusual name. I think I also just saw this Willliam going back up north when he was discharged, which is possible. Maybe the Florence line is the best one to look for, maybe he had a daughter Florence with first wife Catherine Snape.

[colee]

think you need a subscription with Fold3 to see those ledger/pension records, which I don't have any more.

[cath151]

I do nt think this is him but similarities apart from the name!
Service records for an Edwin Butterworth, 22854 East Lancs and 96779.
Address 32 Acer St Blackburn
married a SUSAN Ellen Yates 1899
Child Sarah Ellen born 1900
There is a letter that states no trace of the name Edwin Butterworth in the records of East Lancs or under that number.
I have doubts this is anything to do with your William but you never know.

Cathy

[colee]

That William (41231) with widow Sarah Ellen was born in Farnworth, but my great grandfather was born in Blackburn so I don't think that's him either.

And thank you Cathy - there are so many Butterworths, that's the problem! 'My' William was married to Sarah Ellen, didn't have any children by her name I don't think.

[cath151]

Sorry, Edwin not your William at all looking at other records
Cathy

[colee]

ps Louisa I checked through all the registration docs I have amassed, and sure enough I have a copy of Sarah Ellen and George's marriage certificate, from January 1906, on which the status of both is 'widowed'. So I guess William was 'presumed dead' and had disappeared rather than her necessarily marrying when she knew she was still married to someone else.

I guess William might be on the census of 1911 somewhere, I probably didn't look before as I didn't expect him to be alive then, maybe that will throw something up.

[louisa maud]

What about witnesses on the marriage cert  and address they  gave

On information received what  was  William's  occupation ?





LM

[louisa maud]

I have found a death, 1906 for Thomas William Butterworth , Prestwich 1906, is this a possibility? bearing in mind his wife married Mr Waghorn 1906, if this isn't his death she must have assumed he had died,
Just a thought

LM

[colee]

W R Hunt and E L Hunt witnesses.

(and Sarah Ellen lived on 30 Sidney Road, George Waghorn on 13 Maida Road)