William Thomas Butterworth last record Lambeth 1913

[colee]

Brilliant thank you so much, weird I don't know why they weren't coming up... the freebmd/GRO website looks quite different to when I was looking a few years ago, and it's pretty confusing!! Anyway, that's SUPER helpful thank you, I'll order the certificates now.

[colee]

just spotted that, £7 is a bargain!

[jonw65]

Hi
Good luck.
It looks to me as if Walter died early in the month of December 1905. And Sarah married George Waghorn in early January 1906. So I am doubting that William Thomas Butterworth was still with Sarah when Walter died.
John

EDIT - Checked those dates!

[colee]

oh yes, I also found out that George Thomas Waghorn had a younger brother called Walter, so that points to the connection with George rather than William by the time Walter is born.

[jonw65]

Ah, that's interesting. Well hopefully you will find William's last known whereabouts (until 1913!)

[colee]

hope so, and thank you again for your help.

[colee]

The certificates are interesting:
Margaret's birth (15 June 1900), address is no 34 a road in Chatham (can't make it out as yet) with occupation given as 'insurance superintendent';
Annie's birth (21 April 1902) shows address 16 Clifton Terrace, Strood, occupation 'commission agent';
William Robert's birth (20 Jan 1904) address is Down Hall, Northfleet, occupation 'surveyor';
and Walter's death is the most interesting certificate which I've uploaded, gives the death as 10 Dec 1905, he was only hours old when he died of heart problems, the registrar corrected the details in July 1906 so this must have been re-issued, to say that William Thomas was deceased - on production of a declaration by Emily Yates (Sarah Ellen's sister) and Sarah Ellen Waghorn.
And the GRO hasn't located the birth certificate yet...
Any thoughts on all of that?!

[jonw65]

Wow!
That's a lot of certificates you've got.
On Walter's amended (and reissued?) death certificate it seems to say
Col 5 for "William Thomas Butterworth (deceased) a General Labourer"
read "Sarah Ellen Butterworth formerly Yates"

Does it mean that they are in effect no longer saying that WT Butterworth was Walter's father, only that Sarah Ellen was his mother.

They have also corrected the relationship of the informant Emily Coombe in  Col 7 from sister to aunt.
So Emily gave the info on the death reg, and, presumably at the same time, on the birth registration that the GRO can't find.
I would think that the amended birth certificate will probably remove William Thomas Butterworth as Walter's father.
Interesting that originally Emily said WT was dead (if he wasn't), and that he was a general labourer, whereas we have seen him as something rather different.
John

[colee]

yes it's odd that they should go back to change the record. I might try to get in touch with Emily's family. The two branches of the family fell out I think after my grandmother's sister Margaret Butterworth married Emily's husband (ie her uncle!) after Emily died. But Emily was obviously close to her mother Sarah Ellen, she lived with her etc. So they may know something about what happened/why and even have more photos etc.