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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 30 July 21 10:16 BST (UK) »
Baptism: 12 Sep 1708 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ralph Bell - Son of Tho. Bell
    Born: 9 Sep
    Abode: by St. Peters Church
    Occupation: Plaisterer
    Register: Baptisms 1704 - 1737, Page 7, Entry 7
    Source: LDS Film 1656376
Baptism: 11 Mar 1710/1 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Richard Bell - Son of Thomas Bell
    Born: 5 Mar
    Occupation: Plaisterer
    Register: Baptisms 1704 - 1737, Page 11, Entry 37
    Source: LDS Film 1656376
Baptism: 29 Nov 1713 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Jane Bell - Daughter of Thomas Bell
    Born: 23 Nov
    Occupation: Playsterer
    Register: Baptisms 1704 - 1737, Page 19, Entry 44
    Source: LDS Film 1656376
Baptism: 8 Jan 1715/6 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Jno. Bell - Son of Tho. Bell
    Born: 1 Jan
    Abode: Kings St.
Slatyr
hmmmmmmm
I am wondering if Thomas the PLASTERER is also Thomas the Slater ????   
ALL the baptisms at ST PETER CHURCH
Plasterer abode BY ST PETERS CHURCH
Slater abode Kings St - A 8 MINUTE WALK to St Peter church
 ???
I think Thomas is the father of ALL these children - as Plasterer AND Slater  :) I would be very interested in other members thoughts ?
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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 30 July 21 10:31 BST (UK) »
Very hands on and quite specific and similar style of work.   I am wondering too if Thomas is the father of all these children, as the baptism dates work well chronologically.  Ralph 1708; Richard 1710; Jane 1713; John 1715; Samuel 1717; James 1720 and Henry 1723. 
I couldn't find a marriage at this stage.  That's the next step for me.

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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 30 July 21 10:40 BST (UK) »
Just a thought from humble ol me.   
Maybe the marriage of Thomas Bell (from Farnworth) to Elisabeth Nichols (from Leverpool) on 24 November 1713 at St Peter Liverpool - was he a widow.  Maybe his first wife died and he married soon afterwards to Elisabeth Nichols? 
Is there any way of finding out if he was a widower? 

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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 30 July 21 10:56 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Westee on Friday 30 July 21 10:40 BST (UK)
Just a thought from humble ol me.   
Maybe the marriage of Thomas Bell (from Farnworth) to Elisabeth Nichols (from Leverpool) on 24 November 1713 at St Peter Liverpool - was he a widow.  Maybe his first wife died and he married soon afterwards to Elisabeth Nichols? 
Is there any way of finding out if he was a widower?

that is a good shout - let me see what we can find
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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 30 July 21 11:17 BST (UK) »
Images available on Ancestry for St Peter, Liverpool.  There is NO marriage on 24 November 1713 - nothing between 16 November (William Mather) and 8 December (Henery Whelsh).

Unless, of course, there is another church in Liverpool named St Peter.  :-\
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY

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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 30 July 21 11:21 BST (UK) »
Marriage was at All Saints, Childwall - 24 November 1713 - no status for either party.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 30 July 21 11:30 BST (UK) »
That church is still active - 4 miles from where I live - I just wonder if they would have any written records available ???  what do you think ??

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https://www.allsaintschildwall.org.uk/
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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 30 July 21 11:39 BST (UK) »
The images are on Ancestry - but they are the BT's.

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Re: Baptism 1723 - Occupation of father?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 30 July 21 14:04 BST (UK) »
Quote from: garstonite on Friday 30 July 21 10:16 BST (UK)
I think Thomas is the father of ALL these children - as Plasterer AND Slater  :) I would be very interested in other members thoughts ?

A thought. What proportion of buildings in Liverpool had a slate roof 300 years ago? Did demand for slaters increase with prosperity of the city - new buildings or existing buildings re-roofed with slate?
Cowban
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