Catherine Davies, Taliesin, Cardiganshire 1845

[osprey]

if that is the correct family, the name of the farm looks to be Cae'r Arglwyddes, map attached

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qsx/

baptisms in Llangynfelyn father Evan Davies farmer of Cae Arglwyddes
14 March 1839 Evan mother Margaret
28 Feb 1845 Lewis mother Mary

[osprey]

1841 for Evan & Margaret at same address, head of household Jeremiah Davies possibly the father of Evan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77M-SCC

[davethomas2021]

Thanks so much for all this help and good advice. Will definitely order the Thomas marriage certificate too.
One thing is confusing me here though- is Mary and Margaret Jones/Davies the same person? I’ve never heard those names being used interchangeably before, but is that what is most likely happening here?

[sparrett]

Hi
Just a note on getting the certificate.

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

Scroll to 4

And note- The one you need in the $20 option.
This is an immediate download upon  credit card payment.

No wait time

Sue

ADDING
Those more expert in Welsh names will have answers perhaps, but I do believe that Mair, which was the name of the first child to the couple, is used in Wales as Mary

[maddys52]

I haven't heard of Mary and Margaret being used interchangeably before, but not impossible I would guess.

Another map showing the farm (centre top), from 1886.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101607682

Taliesin is on the next map over on the left (west)
https://maps.nls.uk

[maddys52]

Of possible interest, a couple of mentions of Cae'r Arglwyddes in 1954 newspapers. The first an item about a walk in Cardiganshire and Bedd Taliesin :

"THE EMPTY FARM
   The way seems as lonely as any in the land,
but there are wheel tracks to show that it is
used: and after about a mile or so the reason
appears- a deserted farmhouse standing alone
with a solitary ash in front and an old apple
tree behind. This is Cae'r Arglwyddes - the
Field of the Lady - and it is said to be so
named after Lady Huntingdon, though what
that famous religious reformer of the
eighteenth century had to do with this distant
valley is not obvious.
   The house - lived in until three or four years
ago - is now a sad sight with it's windows
blocked by sheets of corrugated iron. Yet,
though empty, it is not utterly deserted; it
is still a centre of life. the outbuildings are
clearly in use. There are sheep on it's sheep
walks. Down in the valley below we can
see men working the land. And by the yard
gate is parked a smart new car - symbol of
the machine which has changed life upon
the remote farms so deeply. ..."

The Times, Tuesday,  Aug. 3, 1954

The 2nd is from a letter to the editor in response to the above:
"                                          ... Cae'r
Arglwyddes was used by my uncle's
shepherd when the sheep were driven to their
summer pastures over that Clettwr valley,
which was then attached to a lowland farm,
Llwynglas. ..."
The Times, Monday,  Aug. 9, 1954

[maddys52]

Again, if this is the correct family (well found in the 1841 Osprey):

A death for a Jeremiah DAVIES aged 71, buried at Llangynfelyn 20 Oct 1849, the abode appears to be Cae'r Arglwyddes.

Modified to add:
And a burial for a Jane DAVIES, aged 79, on 9 May 1848, again the abode appears to be Cae'r Arglwyddes.

[Galium]

Thanks so much for all this help and good advice. Will definitely order the Thomas marriage certificate too.
One thing is confusing me here though- is Mary and Margaret Jones/Davies the same person? I’ve never heard those names being used interchangeably before, but is that what is most likely happening here?

I have occasionally seen the abbreviation Margt.  mistranscribed as Mary.

[osprey]

it's not a transcription that I was looking at. Scans of the register can be accessed via FindmyPast. The cleric appears to abbreviate Margaret to Marg^t. 

Another baptism to Evan, farmer, & Margaret of Cae Arglwyddes 31 July 1851 of daughter Margaret, But also a burial 13 Aug 1851 for Margaret 5 weeks of Cae Arglwyddes.