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Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« on: Friday 30 July 21 12:16 BST (UK) »
My GGGrandfather Patrick Doyle was born in Queens county, Ireland around 1821. By 1851 he had moved to Liverpool with his family but had died by the time of the 1861 census.
The family lived in Woolf/Upper Wolfe street, Liverpool from 1851 until 1876 but the only GRO death certificate I can find that matches at all is for a Patrick Doyle age 32, who died in 1853 while living at number 22 Court, Bond Street. In attendance was Sarah Brian but I can't find any family link with her. so that puzzles me.
Any thoughts on the difference of address?

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Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 July 21 12:33 BST (UK) »
Do you have the census reference for 1851?
Other family members perhaps?
I have looked at a few entries but none are living at that address in 1851 so presumably they are not him. :)
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Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 July 21 12:42 BST (UK) »
The burial records for Patrick of Bond Street show him as 39 yrs born abt 1814.  :-\
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Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 July 21 13:36 BST (UK) »
1861 shows a son James Patrick Doyle b 1859  plus 2 older children b 1852 & 1854.

Indication possibly that he died later than 1853??

Occ was shipsmith and although that doesn’t suggest he was a mariner - he could possibly have changed occupations after 1861

What was the occupation of the Patrick who died 1853?
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)


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Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 July 21 13:45 BST (UK) »
1861 shows a son James Patrick Doyle b 1859  plus 2 older children b 1852 & 1854.

Indication possibly that he died later than 1853??

Occ was shipsmith and although that doesn’t suggest he was a mariner - he could possibly have changed occupations after 1861

What was the occupation of the Patrick who died 1853?

Sorry - I can’t see James Patrick b 1859 in 1861. (Is it me? ) Do you have the reference, Carole?
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Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 July 21 14:02 BST (UK) »
Just to say, I have them in Toxteth Park in 1851  :)

And 1861 now.
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Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 July 21 14:20 BST (UK) »
From the GRO.  Edited

Joseph Doyle, 1853, Catherine, 1855, John James, 1857, Thomas, 1858, James Patrick, 1859. MMN. Fox, all West Derby

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Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 July 21 14:35 BST (UK) »
The family in 1871  census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDD1-8XH

Dont think the ages are correct for Thomas & Anne

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Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 July 21 14:56 BST (UK) »
For anyone searching them on Anc. I think this is the family transcribed as ‘Taylor’. It is so feint, it can barely be read but those ages look the same on the census page.
1871 3799/17/27

There is also Mary Randfield, 6 yrs granddaughter. (Presumably the child of daughter, Mary).
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