John Lovelace Augustin Bray - 1829-1872

[amondg]

The witnesses at the marriage of John Bray to Ann Lovelace 1817 (found by Rosie 99) are John Clancy and Matilda Lovelace.


Possible 1841 census Bridge Road Westminster
Ann Bray 45 Independent  N
Ellen 22  N
Matilda 25    N

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Possible baptisms, parents John and Frances

Saint Andrew, Holborn
Matilda Lovelace    26 Dec 1791
Ann Lovelace    26 Aug 1793    
John Turnuis Brutus Lovelace    3 Sep 1806

St George, Bloomsbury
Lucretia Betty Margaret Lovelace    1 Jun 1801    [died 1825, at Stanhope St, St Clement Dane]

Standon, All Saints, Staffordshire
John Lovelace    Baptism    18 Sep 1808
Marcus Brutus Owen Lovelace      17 Mar 1816

Added: Stafford may seem unlikely but Marcus marries in London - his father JOhn is noted as a cabinet maker

[DrewZA]

Hi again

Im working through the various hints that have been given - its a slow process!

Any chance someone can make out the writing here?  What kind of shop keeper was he?

[rosie99]

Looks like Chandler Shop Keeper

[Ladyhawk]

Chandler (someone who sells candles)

Edit to add https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandlery

…..18th century, most commercial chandlers dealt in both candles, oils, soap, and even paint

[DrewZA]

Thought I would share my hottest lead from the 1841 census - perhaps this is why I keep hitting dead ends in London?


Census
Parish   St Mary   Series   HO107   Page   5\6
City   Southampton   Piece   0417   Family   1315
County   Hampshire   Registrar's district   Southampton   Line   19
Country   England   Superintendent registrar's district   Southampton   Image   7
Date   1841   Enum. District   9   

[Ladyhawk]

For you to look at possible marriage for John & Ann from 1841 census

John Bray age 29 of Southampton, Grocer
Allegation Date:   20 Sep 1819
Allegation Place:   All Saints, Southampton, Hampshire
Residence:   St Mary's, Southampton
Spouse:   Anne Ekler age 30
Spouse Residence:   All Saints, Southampton
Volume:   Hampshire Allegations for Marriage Licences Vol 1

1828 Baptism daughter Eliza Eklys Gray father John mother Ann
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWMX-649

Edit to add - marriage detail

[rosie99]

 .  Deaths

BRAY, JOHN       age 57 
GRO Reference: 1846  March Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON  Volume 07  Page 114

BRAY, ELIZA    age   17 
GRO Reference: 1845  Dec Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON  Volume 07  Page 129
 

[rosie99]

Possible baptism
John Iremonger Bray
20 April 1823
Father John
Mother Ann
Southampton, St Mary

1841 shows age as 15 which means he could be between 15 & 19 years old