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Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France
« on: Monday 02 August 21 17:35 BST (UK) »
Can any one help with records in France. I'm not having much success.
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Re: Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 August 21 07:21 BST (UK) »
There is something a little wrong here
according to this tree - he is Eugene Louis Roger - died August 5th 1894 in Wrexham

let me know if this is your man - as I find it a little confusing - his marriage etc - he was married before Mary Nadin
BUT born 1851 - and not in Paris -
Born 13 September 1851 - Clamecy,58500,Nièvre,Bourgogne,FRANCE
https://gw.geneanet.org/jfmorin?n=roger&oc=&p=eugene+louis

I am very curious - so HURRY UP ....lol :D
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Re: Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 August 21 08:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Joger
that would explain why it says ( see notes ) ???

Married 9 February 1875, Paris 5e Arrondissement,75005,Paris,Île-de-France,FRANCE, to Eugénie Jeanne Anais He GUERBET 1851-1883 (see notes)

strange not turning up for a wedding - maybe the dad couldn't find his shotgun ...lol
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Re: Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 August 21 08:16 BST (UK) »
and here is the death certificate of his father
http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/osd.php?territoire=GUYANE&commune=CAYENNE&annee=1855&typeacte=AC_DE

page 83

the 2 registrants are penitenciary supervisors , he died in the house of Antoinette Ginerra  49 rue de Berry in Cayenne (Guyana)

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Re: Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 August 21 08:33 BST (UK) »
http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/bagnards_dossiers_individuels/?nom=GONAT&nomEpouse=&prenoms=&alias=&date=&from=&to=&numMatricule=&territoire=&typenote=&note=&q=&id=74809

here is his father 's penitenciary file

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/osd/?dossier=/collection/bagne/H2374/&first=FRANOM22_COLH78_0483_0079&last=FRANOM22_COLH78_0483_0081&title=Registre%20matricules%20:%20H2374$%20Gonat,%20Fran%C3%A7ois$%20Territoire%20:%20Guyane%20fran%C3%A7aise

15 years as a prisonner and 15 more in Guyana after that  ( but he died before). A very heavy penalty.

Went to Guyana on the ship L'Allier , from Toulon on the 25th of april 1853

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Re: Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 August 21 08:41 BST (UK) »
Do you think the father was a black man Joger ??....
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Re: Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 August 21 11:01 BST (UK) »
You mean because of the "coloured complexion"?  Well, I rather think it means that his face was tanned by the sun, or reddish .

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Re: Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 August 21 11:37 BST (UK) »
consultation.archives.hauts-de-seine.net/mdr/index.php/docnumViewer/calculHierarchieDocNum/408218/367506:396213:408224:408227:408218/1440/2560
Copy and paste and go to page 12

Jeanne Anaïs Hena GUERBET , spouse GONAT 's death

She is said aka De Beaulieu and one of the registrants is a De Beaulieu.


So it seems that Eugene Gonat was bigamous.