Eugene Gonat fo Louis Rogers. France

[wilcoxon]

Can any one help with records in France. I'm not having much success.
Thanks


https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=851571.msg7193145

[garstonite]

There is something a little wrong here
according to this tree - he is Eugene Louis Roger - died August 5th 1894 in Wrexham

let me know if this is your man - as I find it a little confusing - his marriage etc - he was married before Mary Nadin
BUT born 1851 - and not in Paris -
Born 13 September 1851 - Clamecy,58500,Nièvre,Bourgogne,FRANCE
https://gw.geneanet.org/jfmorin?n=roger&oc=&p=eugene+louis

I am very curious - so HURRY UP ....lol

[joger]

Hello,

garstonite : you found him.Eugene Louis GONAT aka ROGER in Wales

here is the "marriage" certificate :

http://archives.paris.fr/arkotheque/visionneuse/visionneuse.php?arko=YTo2OntzOjQ6ImRhdGUiO3M6MTA6IjIwMjEtMDgtMDQiO3M6MTA6InR5cGVfZm9uZHMiO3M6MTE6ImFya29fc2VyaWVsIjtzOjQ6InJlZjEiO2k6NDtzOjQ6InJlZjIiO2k6MjE0ODk3O3M6MTY6InZpc2lvbm5ldXNlX2h0bWwiO2I6MTtzOjIxOiJ2aXNpb25uZXVzZV9odG1sX21vZGUiO3M6NDoicHJvZCI7fQ==#uielem_move=537.5999755859375%2C76&uielem_islocked=0&uielem_zoom=58&uielem_brightness=0&uielem_contrast=0&uielem_isinverted=0&uielem_rotate=F

go to page 9/31  .



In the margin is written : the marriage DID NOT take place on the 2d of february, bride and groom did not come.  How come? we don't know .  Sometimes the certificate was written before the ceremony and crossed out if the mariage did not take place (which is the case here).


It took place on the 9th :
http://archives.paris.fr/arkotheque/visionneuse/visionneuse.php?arko=YTo2OntzOjQ6ImRhdGUiO3M6MTA6IjIwMjEtMDgtMDQiO3M6MTA6InR5cGVfZm9uZHMiO3M6MTE6ImFya29fc2VyaWVsIjtzOjQ6InJlZjEiO2k6NDtzOjQ6InJlZjIiO2k6MjE0ODk3O3M6MTY6InZpc2lvbm5ldXNlX2h0bWwiO2I6MTtzOjIxOiJ2aXNpb25uZXVzZV9odG1sX21vZGUiO3M6NDoicHJvZCI7fQ==#uielem_move=537.5999755859375%2C76&uielem_islocked=0&uielem_zoom=58&uielem_brightness=0&uielem_contrast=0&uielem_isinverted=0&uielem_rotate=F

page 28/31

[garstonite]

Thanks Joger
that would explain why it says ( see notes )

Married 9 February 1875, Paris 5e Arrondissement,75005,Paris,Île-de-France,FRANCE, to Eugénie Jeanne Anais He GUERBET 1851-1883 (see notes)

strange not turning up for a wedding - maybe the dad couldn't find his shotgun ...lol

[joger]

and here is the death certificate of his father
http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/caomec2/osd.php?territoire=GUYANE&commune=CAYENNE&annee=1855&typeacte=AC_DE

page 83

the 2 registrants are penitenciary supervisors , he died in the house of Antoinette Ginerra  49 rue de Berry in Cayenne (Guyana)

[joger]

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/bagnards_dossiers_individuels/?nom=GONAT&nomEpouse=&prenoms=&alias=&date=&from=&to=&numMatricule=&territoire=&typenote=&note=&q=&id=74809

here is his father 's penitenciary file

http://anom.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/osd/?dossier=/collection/bagne/H2374/&first=FRANOM22_COLH78_0483_0079&last=FRANOM22_COLH78_0483_0081&title=Registre%20matricules%20:%20H2374$%20Gonat,%20Fran%C3%A7ois$%20Territoire%20:%20Guyane%20fran%C3%A7aise

15 years as a prisonner and 15 more in Guyana after that  ( but he died before). A very heavy penalty.

Went to Guyana on the ship L'Allier , from Toulon on the 25th of april 1853

[garstonite]

Do you think the father was a black man Joger ??....

[joger]

You mean because of the "coloured complexion"?  Well, I rather think it means that his face was tanned by the sun, or reddish .

[joger]

consultation.archives.hauts-de-seine.net/mdr/index.php/docnumViewer/calculHierarchieDocNum/408218/367506:396213:408224:408227:408218/1440/2560
Copy and paste and go to page 12

Jeanne Anaïs Hena GUERBET , spouse GONAT 's death

She is said aka De Beaulieu and one of the registrants is a De Beaulieu.


So it seems that Eugene Gonat was bigamous.