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Re: Burial/death records 1900
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 15:28 BST (UK) »
For the record the death certificate can be viewed via a tree on Ancestry.

27th May 1900, St Joseph's House, Newcastle upon Tyne
Hannah McLane aged 76, widow of John McLane, General Labourer.
Of 126 Fairless Street
Informant John McLane, son, in attendance, of 97 Fairless Street (he is still there in the 1901 Census)

Where Avondale Road, as mentioned in the newspaper announcement, come into is unclear.

It is strange that Karen has had the information from St Joseph's about the 'burial' at St Dominic's.
As RTL has pointed out, this is incorrect. The funeral mass would have been held there, but there was no burial ground, so she would have been interred at a Cemetery. But why no mention of the service at St Dominic's in the newspaper announcement?
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Re: Burial/death records 1900
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen,
Thanks for checking things out.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Jesmond Old/General Cemetery is the same place?  All Saints is just across the road.
Incidentally, my Great x 2 Grandfather's Tyne Pilot brother Richard Bonner Young has a memorial at All Saints but his death notice records Jesmond Cemetery.
I wonder if the burials in this instance may be at All Saints?  It would be helpful if the Local Studies staff could relate what cemetery microfilms have been searched.
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Burial/death records 1900
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 17:23 BST (UK) »
You're quite right. I was misled by the fact that FS has them separately indexed.

All Saints Cemetery seems the most likely, unfortunately the burial index for the year in question is not available on FS.
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Re: Burial/death records 1900
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 17:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jen, yes I agree that All Saints looks like the most likely now. This is one of the three 'Jesmond' cemeteries.  St Andrew & Jesmond  and Jesmond Old/General both now having been eliminated.
Karen, if they haven't already done so, it might be worth it if you ask the Newcastle staff if they have checked out All Saints. This is a 'Jesmond' Cemetery. Explain the other two have been eliminated.  So will they please check this one as a last shot.  Point out you live overseas.
Shy bairns get nowt so it is worth a try. ;)
If they refuse and if my work hours permit I will try and check for you myself when it reopens at some point to the public.
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner


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Re: Burial/death records 1900
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 18:56 BST (UK) »
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Jesmond Old/General both now having been eliminated.

Having had another look at the Jesmond records on FS, they are in an appalling muddle, and I have just come across some more indexes. They aren't in any sort of order that I can find  :-X


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Re: Burial/death records 1900
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 19:37 BST (UK) »
That may explain why the Local Studies staff seem to have thrown in the towel .. ;)
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Burial/death records 1900
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 19:51 BST (UK) »
For the record the death certificate can be viewed via a tree on Ancestry.

27th May 1900, St Joseph's House, Newcastle upon Tyne
Hannah McLane aged 76, widow of John McLane, General Labourer.
Of 126 Fairless Street
Informant John McLane, son, in attendance, of 97 Fairless Street (he is still there in the 1901 Census)

Where Avondale Road, as mentioned in the newspaper announcement, come into is unclear.

I think the tree with the death cert may imply that Patrick McLean was her son.
Patrick McLane is on the electoral registers at 126 Fairless Street from 1894 to 1900

Probably then he is the Patrick McLean at 42 Beresford Street in 1901, age 52, Labourer, born Ireland, married to Mary, born Gateshead, with children and it looks like with step children.
Beresford street was in the same census enumeration district as Avondale Road.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSMT-GP7

1902/3 electoral has Patrick McClen at 42 Beresford Street.
Unfortunately there may be a missing year in the Newcastle electorals on ancestry, 1901/2, which might have confirmed a move from Avondale Road.

But in 1903 we have Patrick McClen at 85 Avondale Road, successive from 42 Beresford Street!!
Later in the decade Patrick McClen is at 91 Avondale Road. And at more numbers too.
Patrick McLean age 60 is in the 1911 census free index, wife is Mary, I would imagine in Avondale Road
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWM8-Z2F

I think Patrick and Mary married in 1900 in Newcastle.

Patrick's death?
June 1927 Newcastle T. 10b 179
Mclean, Patrick   
age 77   

He is in the Jesmond indexes found through the link from Jen in Reply #20, and we do at least have a grave register entry for him
Unconsecrated section D, grave 393 (there seem to be several D sections)
Patrick was first in, a bit disappointing. Buried 2 June 1927.
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Re: Burial/death records 1900
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 20:28 BST (UK) »
That's great what you have found, Jon.  If Patrick is in All Saints (Jesmond) it may well be promising that his parents could be here too.
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 11 August 21 20:48 BST (UK) »
Brilliant John.

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Patrick McLean age 60 is in the 1911 census free index, wife is Mary, I would imagine in Avondale Road

Just checked - you are correct (of course!)

The grave register you've found is that for All Saints, which is a pointer to the fact that Hannah might also be there.
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