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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09 August 21 17:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for your kind help

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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 August 21 17:59 BST (UK) »
George married in 1838 at Trinity Church, Newington.  Also has father Samuel a coach trimmer.

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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 August 21 18:07 BST (UK) »
Just a maybe.  Harriott buried 1776 at Sudbury, Suffolk.  Husband Samuel Scutchey.

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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 August 21 18:10 BST (UK) »
Another maybe.  Samuel Scutchey buried at St.Leonards, Shoreditch in 1820 aged 71


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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 August 21 18:16 BST (UK) »
baptisms to Samuel & Elizabeth Scutchey in Rochester Kent
Matilda born 18 Dec 1814 bp 4 June 1815, father Samuel, harness maker
George bp 28 Sep 1817

Matilda married William Ellis 22 Feb 1835 in Rochester, Harriet Scutchey was one of the witnesses.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 August 21 18:44 BST (UK) »
George's 1838 marriage was to Mary Harriott Niblett, both of full age.

1851 census their ages seem to be out by 10 years
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGT8-MQF

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 August 21 19:57 BST (UK) »
Just a maybe.  Harriott buried 1776 at Sudbury, Suffolk.  Husband Samuel Scutchey.

I think this is the mother of the Harriet I mentioned above. Samuel Scutchey & Harriet Everard married on 20th May 1771 in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk and had at least 1 child, also called Harriet, in 1772. If Harriet Sr. died in 1776, she certainly would have had time to have another child, maybe a son called Samuel, after his father?

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Another maybe.  Samuel Scutchey buried at St.Leonards, Shoreditch in 1820 aged 71

This is interesting. Could he be the father of Samuel Scutchey (circa 1772-1825)? If Samuel Sr. was born in 1749, he would be the right age to be the Samuel who married Harriet Everard in 1771.

There is also Samuel Scutchey who married Mary Lloyd Jeffrys in 1780 in St George, Hanover Square. Is this the same man, remarrying after the death of his wife? They had a son together, John, who was born the same year.

This Samuel Scutchey is most likely the child baptised on 13th December 1749 in Sudbury, Suffolk to Samuel & Mildrey/Millery Scutchey.

My theory:

Samuel Scutchey is born in 1749 to Samuel & Mildrey/Millery Scutchey in Sudbury, Suffolk. In 1771, he marries Harriet Everard in Bury St Edmunds. They have at least 2 children together: Harriet, born 1772, and a son called Samuel.

Harriet Sr. passes away in 1776 and Samuel and his children move to London. In 1780, he marries his second wife, Mary Lloyd Jeffrys, and has another son, John.

Samuel Jr. marries Elizabeth Bedford in 1797 in Shoreditch. By 1814, he has moved to Rochester, Kent, where he passes away in 1825. His father remains in Shoreditch, where he passes away in 1820.

Definitely seems plausible and Scutchey is such an unusual name, combined with the 'Harriet'/Shoreditch connection. Don't know why there is no baptism entry for Samuel Jr., but I have an ancestor whose siblings have baptism entries when he does not. His parents were a theory until confirmed by DNA.

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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 August 21 20:09 BST (UK) »
 I agree that the above theory looks promising.  Does anyone else think that the 1780 marriage signature for Samuel looks very much like the witness signature on the Mary Scutchey 1806 marriage?  Maybe the daughter of Samuel and Mary.

Mary Scutchey born  c.1758, buried 1817 St.Leonard, Shoreditch

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Re: Looking for baptism of Samuel SCUTCHEY
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 August 21 20:16 BST (UK) »
Amazing and it all holds together apart rom the lack of the baptism for Samuel  which may well have been lost in the archives.  Thanks so much fo ll your brilliant detective work

Kind Regards

David