Grandfather

[ANT_55]

Hello all, and firstly i will say what a brilliant lot you are.

I am trying to find any information about my grandfather, unfortunately i don't have much to go on. Sadly, he passed away when my father ( his son), was only ten years old, from TB, so i never got to see him. I myself was born in 1955, and i believe my grandfather passed away around 1937. My father was born in sidney st, tidal basin, tower hamlets, on aug 1st 1927. His mothers name was HARRIET SUSAN ABBOTT ( NEE ROBSON ), i think born in 1897, maybe west ham, essex. My father, GEORGE WILLIAM ABBOTT, married my mother DOREEN JOYCE ABBOTT, ( NEE DURHAM) d.o b 22nd june 1929 on 8th oct 1948, west ham. My father was one of four children, but again sadly, every aunt, and uncle has now passed. I do not know anything about my grandfather, even his first name. I remember my father talling me he hated his father, because he became violent, i believe because of TB, so i never talked about him. On one occasion, i did see a couple of photographs of him, one in a ww1 uniform, and one sitting outside the sanatorium, but they disappeared. I have no idea where my grandfather was born, or what year, and have absolutely nothing to go on. I wanted to do a small family tree, but was stumped at the first hurdle. I am very much hoping that someone can give me a head start, because i'm totally lost.

Thankyou
Tony

[spendlove]

Hi,

Their first child was born 1920 HENRY J. ABBOTT West Ham Registration District.

A possible marriage Abbott = Robson is

June Quarter 1919 West Ham Harry Abbot = Harriet H Robson.

Are you sure your G.Mother’s second name was Susan?

OTHER CHILDREN BORN in WEST HAM, mother’s maiden name Robson this would make 5 children in total.

Can you confirm any of the above names?


Births Dec 1922   
Abbott    Ada
Births Sep 1924   
Abbott    Rose A   
Births Sep 1927   
Abbott    George W    Robson   
Births Jun 1932   
Abbott    James A    Robson   


You can search yourself, on free BMD

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

SPENDLOVE

[rosie99]

Welcome to rootschat

I suspect that Harriet H was a transcription error when the GRO marriage index was typed up

Birth June qtr 1897 
Robson    Harriet Susan       
W. Ham    4a   129

Death
Harriet Susan Abbott
Birth  11 March 1897
Death March qtr 1975
Redbridge, Essex

[rosie99]

A possible marriage Abbott = Robson is

June Quarter 1919 West Ham Harry Abbot = Harriet H Robson.

Could this be his death as you mention 1937
Death Sep qtr 1937   
Abbott    Harry   age  41   
Essex S.W.  4a   196

ADDED
To track Harry further back you really need his marriage certificate which should name his father.

[ANT_55]

Wow, that could possibly be. I can remember two things, one was my  father telling me that he was glad his father passed away, because he was violent. And two, my sister telling me that my grandfather was only about 40 when he died. Now, i do know that he ended up in a sanitorium, as i once see an old photo of him sitting outside. I am aware that it had something to do with being a west ham sanatorium, however, i don't know where, but i'm going to presume he died there. Where he is buried i have no idea. I am very new to this, and becase my health is not too good, struggle a little. But, the help i am getting from you wonderful people is truly amazing. What a brilliant site.

Tony

[spendlove]

Hi,

Rosie this must be him, because 1939 Register Harriett P (as transcribed) is a widow.

Only one of children I listed is with her. Have located George W, but we are not allowed to give transcripts of 1939 Register.

Tonyblue66 you have access to Ancestry or Find my past?

Spendlove

[hanes teulu]

I had spotted the Harriet P (as transcribed) and compared the original with a capital "S" elsewhere on the sheet. It looks like an "S" when compared against Sidney Street at top of screen.

[rosie99]

I agree that the 'P' in 1939 is an 'S'


What are your thoughts on our findings Tony 

[ANT_55]

Hi rosie

To be honest, i am gobsmacked, i really don't know how you do it, but am surely grateful. In answer to your question, yes, i was on ancestry. But, because i did not know my grandfathers name, or age of death, i became frustrated, so ended my memberbership within the trial period. (14 DAYS). But, now that i have more information to go on, maybe it would be a good idea to start afresh. I literally found very little when i looked before, simply  because of a few small details. I did join the forces records site, because as i mentioned, am interested in where he served, what unit, i presume a london unit, and when he was dismissed. However, maybe i need a few more details before i go down that route. Am dead chuffed about all this. Before i joined this site, i found out about it, and started to read some of the stories. The information that was found for people, who like me, do not have a clue where to strt, was brilliant. Keep up the good work.

Tony