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Death certificate
« on: Friday 13 August 21 10:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
Back after a long break again
Could you please let me know what details would be on a death certificate from. 1920
Im hoping date of birth to help me confirm person on my  tree is the one !
Thank you
PUTTNAM..london..olney..
POWELL...treorchy
WALL...bath
STAPLES...weston-super-mare..bleadon...
PEPPIATT...llondon
TULLETT (hannah) born cork ireland... 1891 census living london
WILLIAMS....rhyl wales

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Re: Death certificate
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 August 21 10:28 BST (UK) »
Hi there

Date of birth isn't included, though age will be - although you can see that in any case from the GRO index, which shows age at death.

However, the validity of the information is down to the knowledge of the person telling the registrar.
And therefore it may be correct, or in fact could be well out.

You can see from the 1939 Register that many people either don't know their OWN date of birth (as compared with the evidence of a birth certificate) or choose to alter it for a variety of reasons.

So if you're wanting an idea whether a death is yours or not (so to speak) then comparing a known age with what the informant said to the registrar, and shown on the GRO index, will be as good as buying a death cert.

On the other hand, the informant, the address at death, the occupation of the deceased, and other details on the certificate might be good clues?

Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Death certificate
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 August 21 10:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you
You have confirmed my thoughts !
It was the date of birth I needed .she made her mark on marriage cert so even the spelling could be wrong of maiden  surname ..Reece ..rees..she would of had no idea
 I have correct person for death certificate ,
I think I have to leave this brick wall for a while for my sanity 🤣

PUTTNAM..london..olney..
POWELL...treorchy
WALL...bath
STAPLES...weston-super-mare..bleadon...
PEPPIATT...llondon
TULLETT (hannah) born cork ireland... 1891 census living london
WILLIAMS....rhyl wales

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Re: Death certificate
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 August 21 10:46 BST (UK) »
Tell us who you're having a problem with & maybe we can help.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Death certificate
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 August 21 10:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you
Sadly I'm currently sat in my caravan and most details at home
She is Mary Ann Reece born 1853 st George in the east ..bethnal green ,  on her census forms
Married Johnathan puttnam 1870
Her father on there John Reece ...his mark
When I ordered birth cert for only Mary ann Reece born 1853 in st George in the east ( closest  match  I could find )  says mother Elizabeth jane Marshall father George Augustus Reece ..I found there marriage cert but no other info on them
Sorry very complicated (as usual) to explain
Thank you for your patience
PUTTNAM..london..olney..
POWELL...treorchy
WALL...bath
STAPLES...weston-super-mare..bleadon...
PEPPIATT...llondon
TULLETT (hannah) born cork ireland... 1891 census living london
WILLIAMS....rhyl wales

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Re: Death certificate
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 August 21 11:13 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann says that she is aged 19 when she marries John in 1870, so born around 1851.  However, a lot of births prior to 1874 were not registered as the onus was not on the parents.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
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Re: Death certificate
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 August 21 12:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you sometimes a fresh pair of eyes to pick up on something obvious is needed
Will try again
PUTTNAM..london..olney..
POWELL...treorchy
WALL...bath
STAPLES...weston-super-mare..bleadon...
PEPPIATT...llondon
TULLETT (hannah) born cork ireland... 1891 census living london
WILLIAMS....rhyl wales

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Re: Death certificate
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 August 21 16:27 BST (UK) »
Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate for Mary and her husband?  Is there an occupation for her father and where were they living at the time of the marriage?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Death certificate
« Reply #8 on: Friday 13 August 21 16:36 BST (UK) »
Witnesses = John Reece (x) Labourer and Elizabeth Anford.  Address for Mary Ann - 8 Victoria Street, and for John Puttman - 14 Medcalf Row.  Image available on Ancestry.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY