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Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« on: Monday 16 August 21 17:02 BST (UK) »
Good Day Lancs Rootschatters

I have a reference to Greenal being the abode of someone buried at Kirkham in 1797.
Googling didn't help much.

I got a hit on Greenall as the birth place of Jane Jackson born 1816 and living at Great Eccleston in 1851. Otherwise lots of hits for Greenall as a surname but not a place name.

Does anyone know where Greenal / Greenall is or was? 

By the way the person who died there in 1797 had connections with Great Ecclestone so I am assuming Greenal is/was somewhere nearby to G.E.

Hoping someone local knows this place. Thanks for reading.

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Re: Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 August 21 17:03 BST (UK) »
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Re: Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 01:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie.

Who knew eh?  I take it the gh is silent.

Best regards

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Re: Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 07:38 BST (UK) »
...gh has any number of pronunciations, and it confuses most people at one time or another.

It comes and goes depending on who is writing it down.

Some of my ancestors just south of the Ribble are recorded as FARCLEW. These days the name is usually spelled FAIRCLOUGH.

George Bernard Shaw came up with the spelling GHOTI, pronounced as FISH.   :)
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 12:02 BST (UK) »
Greenhalgh as a surname is usually pronounced Greenhalsh, at least it was in Lancashire where I grew up.
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FAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY/FEARY, LAWSON, CHURCH, BENSON, HALSTEAD from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts;  Burnley, Lancs;  New Zealand, Australia & US.

HURST, BOLTON,  BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD, MCIVOR from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs.

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Re: Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 August 21 16:36 BST (UK) »
Alice b 1847 has mmn Wignall

confirmation of Jane's place of birth

Marriage: 24 Feb 1845 St Michael, Kirkham, Lancashire, England
Joseph Jackson - (X), full age, Labourer, Bachelor, Greenhalgh
Jane Wignall - (X), full age, Spinster, Greenhalgh
    Groom's Father: William Jackson, Labourer
    Witness: Thomas Parkinson, (X); Jane Matthers, (X)

the place name is pronounced like the name Greenhalsh


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Re: Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 August 21 16:42 BST (UK) »
Greenhalgh as a surname is usually pronounced Greenhalsh, at least it was in Lancashire where I grew up.

I would agree with that, OH has family tree ties to Dunkenhalgh which I always understood was pronounced as halsh.  :)
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Re: Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 August 21 18:57 BST (UK) »
Dunkenhalgh is usually pronounced as halsh but if you read their accounts in the Lancashire Archives you will find entries for Dunken Hall.
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