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Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« on: Monday 16 August 21 19:56 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone
I can find my great great uncle Alfred Thomas Lincoln’s baptism in Essex on 5/10/1851 but not his actual birthday. The reason I am keen to find his birthdate/year is as follows:

Alfred Thomas Lincoln’s parent were Joseph and Susannah nee Clarke. Now in the 1851 census Joseph  and another son Edward Lincoln (my great great and great grandfathers) were in Malden workhouse. Incidentally Joseph Lincoln died in Malden workhouse in 1876 aged 76, spending over 25 years there.

Now his wife Susannah Lincoln in the 1851 census was living as a housekeeper with Thomas Enifer, a widower and his 2 children, and her son James aged 4. WAS ALFRED THOMAS LINCOLN NOT YET BORN THEN? The 1851 census was taken 8/4/1851.

SUSANNAH Lincoln then in the 1861 census had 3 of her sons with her including Alfred age 9. She is still living with Thomas Enifer.

In the 1871 census Susannah Lincoln now has only 2 of her sons with her James and Alfred age 19. Incidentally in the census it has Susannah down as a sister and her 2 sons as newphews to Thomas Enifer but that is incorrect.

In the 1881 census Susannah Lincoln and Thomas Enifer both also end up inMalden  Workhouse and died there.

I can only assume that Alfred Thomas Lincoln was Thomas Enifer’s son hence why he is called Alfred THOMAS. Can you see why I am keep to get Alfred Thomas Lincoln’s date of birth. Surely he must be Thomas Enifer’s son as Joseph Lincoln was in Malden Workhouse.  Of course I don’t know the exact date Susannah Lincoln went to live with Thomas  Enifer.

The Lincoln family is proving ver entertaining if that’s the right word!!!!

Would appreciate people’s help and thoughts on this.  Many many thanks in advance.


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Re: Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 August 21 20:13 BST (UK) »
There's this birth on FreeBMD?

June qtr 1851
Maldon Registration District     Vol 12, Page 174
Lincoln, Alfred Johnson

Mother's Maiden Name = Clarke on GRO
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 August 21 20:13 BST (UK) »
 no image but is this his marriage?

Alfred Lincoln Age:   25
Marriage Place:   Purleigh, All Saints, Essex, England
Marriage Date:   28 Jul 1877
Father:   Joseph Lincoln
Spouse:   Mary Clements

You mention his mother’s maiden name is Clarke there is this birth entry GRO but middle name not Thomas  :-\

LINCOLN, ALFRED  JOHNSON     mmn CLARKE 
GRO Reference: 1851  J Quarter in MALDON  Volume 12  Page 174

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Re: Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 August 21 21:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you to KGarrad and Ladyhawk

That looks that that is the birthdate. Looks like Johnson was used a# 2nd name when born but then Thomas as 2nd name when christened.

STRANGE! Not sure he is a Lincoln but an Enifer!!!


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Re: Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 August 21 22:17 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Oops... I knew that the other day when I made that long post;  so here are a few other things that might save you time.

The 7 yr old daughter, Sarah, on the 1841 census, can be found on the 1851 transcribed as "Linson".
She goes on to marry Abraham Smith.

The 1 year old daughter, Eleanor, on the 1841 census, is actually "Alice".  She died age 2 in 1841.

To find mother Susannah in 1851, she is transcribed as "Lincon" and age 20!! 

It appears that Susannah and Thomas were living as husband and wife, but Susannah, being married could not remarry.  Hence the "sister" entry on a later census.  I came to the conclusion that Alfred was indeed the son of Thomas, although on his marriage, he did list Joseph as his father.  Maybe he never knew, although there is a slim chance that Joseph was still the father.


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Re: Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 August 21 22:25 BST (UK) »
BBart had just seen the same 1841 census was going to post and ask if she was correct Susannah, also on that same census is Thomas Enever

Piece:   327
Book:   22
Folio:   5
Page Number:   4
Thomas Enever   25
Martha Enever   25
Thomas Enever   4
Martha Enever   3
Nathanel Enever   1
James Bond   70

Is this their marriage

Susanna Clarke
Marriage Place:   Purleigh, All Saints, Essex, England
Marriage Date:   31 Aug 1830
Spouse:   Joseph Lincoln
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Re: Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 August 21 22:29 BST (UK) »
Ladyhawk

Yes that is the marriage.

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Re: Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 August 21 22:36 BST (UK) »
bbart

Hi.  This Lincoln family is certainly giving us lots to research.

Thank you for finding out about Eleanor being Alice. It was going to be my next post!!!!

One more question. So what happened to William Lincoln who was born in 1836, is he a twin brother of Walter Lincoln? On the 1851 census Susannah was with Thomas Enifer and only one child James aged 4 and heavily pregnant with Alfred (who was Alfred Johnson when born, then Alfred Thomas when baptised). Another son Edward was with Joseph Lincoln in the Malden Workhouse. William is not with either parent in 1851 but in 1861 census is with his mum Susannah Lincoln and Thomas Enifer. Where was William Lincoln?  The only remaining living child was Sarah who would have only been 16 so 8nguessnleft home if I have got all this correct.

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Re: Help finding Alfred Thomas Lincoln DOB
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 August 21 22:42 BST (UK) »
in 1841, Walter was actually 9.   Full name Walter Clark Lincoln, and he died in 1841.


Edit:  Oops, you asked about William.... sifting through my notes to find him!