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Addresses out of UK Census Forms and GRO Indexes.
« on: Wednesday 18 August 21 18:24 BST (UK) »
Occasionally a census form shows the name or number of a house or street, but frequently it doesn’t. Is there a way in which to refer the enumeration district number, household ID etc. to a proper address?
Similarly, can further BMD information be found be using the Page, Volume & Affiliate Line Numbers that are referred to in the Index search results?
In each case how can these sources of primary information be accessed, please?
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Re: Addresses out of UK Census Forms and GRO Indexes.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 August 21 22:17 BST (UK) »
The reference for a census includes a page no.  That page contains a list of names to whom addresses are attached.

When you look at a transcript of a household it gives you the Piece no., Folio and Page no. and that is what you can use to relocate that particular family.

There is not a lot you can do if the address is simply the street and no number is indicated.

There is no link between BMD records and census records.  Not sure what you are trying to say with regard to your BMD remark.  Perhaps you would like to clarify?

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
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Re: Addresses out of UK Census Forms and GRO Indexes.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 August 21 22:38 BST (UK) »
The only way to obtain addresses relating to the BMD references is to purchase the relevant certificate from the GRO. It is free to register but the you will have to pay for the certificates. The only exception is if you  can locate the marriage entry in Parish Records.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Addresses out of UK Census Forms and GRO Indexes.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 August 21 00:20 BST (UK) »
Occasionally a census form shows the name or number of a house or street, but frequently it doesn’t. Is there a way in which to refer the enumeration district number, household ID etc. to a proper address?

The concept of a "proper address" is a relatively modern one.

In the current GPS era, councils are "persuaded" to invent road names for country lanes that never had one before, with the explanation that the ambulance or fire engine might not know how to get there otherwise.

In the 1980s I can remember the Royal Mail adverts "Pass on the Postcode, you're not properly addressed without it".

But the question is about census returns which date between 1841 and 1901.  Certainly in those earlier decades, in a typical village, the enumerator would be told to visit every house in the village, or perhaps every house east of Church Lane, and that's what they would do.  Perhaps if the house had a name, that name would be included, or a description "Court Farm House" or "The Vicarage" or "Lower Lodges".  If the road had a name that would be shown but quite regularly there is no entry because the enumerator didn't need one.   And if you asked a villager what is that house, they would probably say that is the Bartons' house or the Jacksons' house or the shoemaker's house.

In towns you will probably get a street name most of the time and as you go later in the century you start finding house numbers in some places especially where an estate was being built rather than individual houses.

So I would think it's unlikely that in the cases you're interested in, there will be a more "proper" address that belongs to a dwelling. 
Rutter, Sampson, Swinerd, Head, Redman in Kent.  Others in Cheshire, Manchester, Glos/War/Worcs.
RUTTER family and Matilda Sampson's Will:


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Re: Addresses out of UK Census Forms and GRO Indexes.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 August 21 11:13 BST (UK) »
The only way to obtain addresses relating to the BMD references is to purchase the relevant certificate from the GRO. It is free to register but the you will have to pay for the certificates. The only exception is if you  can locate the marriage entry in Parish Records.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

If it's a very old certificate, you might be wasting your money. I have several death and marriage certificates (1850s - 1870s) which don't even give the street, just the village.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott