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John Henry James Master Mariner
« on: Monday 30 August 21 19:22 BST (UK) »
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My 3 x great grandfather, was a Master Mariner, he was born in 1821, in Milford Haven, I think he was in the RN, before being in the Merchant Navy, in the MN I;m guessing he would of worked his way up from being a mate. His masters certificate is 6767, and Mates certificate is 62.125

He married in Liverpool in to Johanna Poulson in the mid 1840s.

He ship the Catherine Porter shipwrecked of the Dublin coast in 1867, and John drowned, how would I find more of his seafaring career.

thanks for any help, I don't know where to begin, do I go to the Greenwich Museum or The London Archives for more information?

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Re: John Henry James Master Mariner
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 01:00 BST (UK) »
Have you paged backwards on his Mates certificate & read all of the correspondence & list of ships?  https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qvm/
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham. North Yorkshire.  JACKSON: East Yorks, North Yorks, Durham. TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: John Henry James Master Mariner
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 October 21 15:30 BST (UK) »
A Couple of ways to do this but the easiest is to consult Lloyd's Captains Register, available from London Metropolitan Archives
https://search.lma.gov.uk/scripts/mwimain.dll/144/RESEARCH_GUIDES/web_detail_rg/SISN+72?SESSIONSEARCH
Copies are at Kew but they are very poorly copied. See also,
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C408232 you would need to visit to view

 Another way is to look at old Crew Agreements and backtrack from these.
I have just done a quick search for the 1867 C/As of CATHERINE PORTER official number 47217 but can only find the 1864 copies. Your best bet is LMA.
The Mercantile Navy List confirms his Masters Certificate number but his name is recorded as James, not James Henry.
I understand Ancestry has some records online. Not having a subscription, I cannot give you details. Others may advise.
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Re: John Henry James Master Mariner
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 October 21 18:55 BST (UK) »
A Couple of ways to do this but the easiest is to consult Lloyd's Captains Register, available from London Metropolitan Archives
https://search.lma.gov.uk/scripts/mwimain.dll/144/RESEARCH_GUIDES/web_detail_rg/SISN+72?SESSIONSEARCH
Copies are at Kew but they are very poorly copied. See also,
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C408232 you would need to visit to view

 Another way is to look at old Crew Agreements and backtrack from these.
I have just done a quick search for the 1867 C/As of CATHERINE PORTER official number 47217 but can only find the 1864 copies. Your best bet is LMA.
The Mercantile Navy List confirms his Masters Certificate number but his name is recorded as James, not James Henry.
I understand Ancestry has some records online. Not having a subscription, I cannot give you details. Others may advise.

Ancestry has images of the actual certificates for masters and mates where they are still available. I was able to download my great great grandfather's certificates as only mate and master from the late 1850s/early1860s. In some cases I believe the application for examination is also available.

I remember finding an upload of an old publication (possibly the London Gazette) which listed successful candidates by examination centre. It also summarised the skills to be examined. Unfortunately I can't find the screenshots I took but I'll see if I can find it again.
Boutflower/Boutflour - Northumberland & County Durham
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Bettley - N & W Yorkshire