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Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« on: Tuesday 31 August 21 13:37 BST (UK) »
Could I ask for help to clarify parents on Alfred Jules Philippart's birth certificate attached.  Regards
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Re: Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 14:13 BST (UK) »
Illegitimate child of Clémentine Phillipart
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Re: Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 14:15 BST (UK) »
That's interesting. Thank you
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Re: Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 14:20 BST (UK) »
May I ask does it give an age for Clementine?
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Re: Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 14:46 BST (UK) »
She was 24 (ȃgée de vingt-quatre ans) and single (célibataire).
fils naturel means illegitimate son.
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Re: Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 15:05 BST (UK) »
Many thanks, that answered a question.
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Re: Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 15:10 BST (UK) »
You may find https://www.geneanet.org/ useful. If you search for Alfred Jules Phillipart it gives birth and death info for him.

Eg
Birth:

Code commune :   85011
Commune :   Florenville
Code province :   8
Province :   Luxembourg
Type acte :   N
Jj :   21
Mm :   10
Aaaa :   1881
Nom :   PHILIPPART
Prénom :   Alfred Jules
Sexe :   M
Nom père :   N.
Prénom père :   N.
Nom mère :   PHILIPPART
Prénom mère :   Clémentine

and death:


Code commune :   85011
Commune :   Florenville
Code province :   8
Province :   Luxembourg
Type acte :   D
Jj :   4
Mm :   2
Aaaa :   1908
Nom :   PHILIPPART
Prénom :   Joseph
Origine :   Florenville
Date naissance :   09/07/1831
Sexe :   M
Information :   Domicilié à Florenville, dit Eugène, veuf
Profession :   Sans profession
Nom conjoint :   N.
Prénom conjoint :   N.
Information conjoint :   Décédée
Nom père :   PHILIPPART
Prénom père :   Pierre Joseph
Information père :   Décédé
Nom mère :   JACOB
Prénom mère :   Jeanne Marie
Information mère :   Décédée
Nom t1 :   PHILIPPART
Prénom t1 :   Alfred Jules
Information t1 :   26 ans. Journalier, domicilié à Florenville. Ami du défunt.
Nom t2 :   JACOB
Prénom t2 :   Louis
Information t2 :   54 ans. Secrétaire communal

Oops the death info is for Joseph, but Alfred Jules is mentioned.

It's a lot easier to read than the original!
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Re: Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 August 21 15:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks for update. I have got Joseph's death cert, he was Alfred Jules uncle.
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Re: Birth record help. Alfred Jules Philippart, Florenville Belgium
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 September 21 19:04 BST (UK) »
Hi

She has another child, also born out of wedlock, Elisa PHILIPPART, in 1885, same place

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RJT-5JD?i=314&cc=2138510&cat=622561