Author Topic: Deserter from the Military  (Read 1433 times)

Offline Karen Coatsworth

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 72
    • View Profile
Deserter from the Military
« on: Wednesday 01 September 21 08:42 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am searching for my ancestor Anthony McLane born County Mayo Ireland 1860. Migrated to England with his parents John and Hannah McLane in 1862/63. Settled in Newcastle upon Tyne. He is in the 1871 census with his family. In 1778 14th January he is in the Police Gazette as wanted for  desertion from Her Majesty's Service and then for fraudulent enlistment for which he is given deduction in pay. After this, I can find no trace of him in censuses, marriages, death records or migrations. I think I have searched everything thoroughly.
Any suggestions?
Thank you
Kind regards
Karen Coatsworth.

Offline shanreagh

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,392
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Deserter from the Military
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 September 21 08:53 BST (UK) »
Presumably you have tried spelling variations for his name.....Mclean etc? Was it 1887 he was wanted for desertion.  Have you checked his Military  files ( I am assuming that is what you are referring to with the words Her Majesty's Service?)

Sometimes people wanting to make a move away may adopt a new surname such as using the maiden name of their mother.

On this site, irishgenealogy.ie, there is the death of an Anthony Maclean in Bellmullet Co Mayo aged 26 in Sept 1887.  He is shown as married, farmer and died of a gastric disease.  The death was reported by an uncle, Richard McAndrew who was with him when he died. You need to sign in but there is no charge. 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/43cd4b5960009?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3Danthony%26namel%3Dmclane%26location%3D%26yyfrom%3D%26yyto%3D%26submit%3DSearch

Offline GrahamSimons

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,072
    • View Profile
Simons Barrett Jaffray Waugh Langdale Heugh Meade Garnsey Evans Vazie Mountcure Glascodine Parish Peard Smart Dobbie Sinclair....
in Stirlingshire, Roxburghshire; Bucks; Devon; Somerset; Northumberland; Carmarthenshire; Glamorgan

Offline Karen Coatsworth

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 72
    • View Profile
Re: Deserter from the Military
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 September 21 09:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Graham I will let you know how I go :)


Offline JenB

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,872
    • View Profile
Re: Deserter from the Military
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 September 21 09:17 BST (UK) »
In 1778 14th January he is in the Police Gazette as wanted for  desertion from Her Majesty's Service and then for fraudulent enlistment for which he is given deduction in pay.

What is the correct year, please?  :)
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Karen Coatsworth

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 72
    • View Profile
Re: Deserter from the Military
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 September 21 10:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen my apologies
1878
🙄

Offline JenB

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,872
    • View Profile
Re: Deserter from the Military
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 September 21 10:13 BST (UK) »
Settled in Newcastle upon Tyne. He is in the 1871 census with his family.

For anyone wishing to check on the family, they aren't in Newcastle upon Tyne R.D. at that time, they are actually in Longbenton, Tynemouth R.D., RG10/5125/47/27.
Also there in 1881 (no Anthony though).

Hi Jen my apologies
1878
🙄

Thanks Karen. Did you find the article online for the year 1878 please?
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline JenB

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,872
    • View Profile
Re: Deserter from the Military
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 September 21 10:36 BST (UK) »
Ah, I see that a lot of this information is online via 'Fold 3' on Ancestry.

According to this, 14th January was the date of desertion, not the date of publication (if I read it rightly)
It looks like there were several mentions in March 1878.
He was court-martialled in September 1879.
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Karen Coatsworth

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 72
    • View Profile
Re: Deserter from the Military
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 September 21 00:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen yes I found that info on Fold3 but I didnt see the court martial order. I must admit to not knowing anything about military processes. What would that have meant for him? I think I should try to follow up with the link that Graham sent me.
Thank you
Karen.