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Real mum
« on: Saturday 04 September 21 11:21 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone. I have just joined, and don't  know much about using a computer, so hopefully can navigate my way around here.  My question is, how do you find out who a persons birth mother is? Quick rundown...Grandmothers half sister claimed to be my gmums birth mother. I have her birth cert, (England) and it states her mum as her mum, not her half sister. Everyone involved has passed away, so have to do the sleuthing myself. Is there any way of finding out? Thankyou.

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Re: Real mum
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 September 21 19:27 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Welcome.

If you have got the original birth certificate for your G.mother, and it states the name of her mother
As she knew her to be and not the name of the half sister I think this is the only record available.  It is a legal document, so unless the registrar was given incorrect information the mother is as stated.

Have you looked for a baptism?  Although unlikely to be different to the Birth Registration you hold.

Assume there is no father recorded, is this correct?

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Re: Real mum
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 September 21 19:42 BST (UK) »
Hi, Welcome to Rootschat,

What were the ages of the half sister and the stated mother at the time of your grandmother's birth?

Tony.
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Re: Real mum
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 September 21 04:25 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone. I have just joined, and don't  know much about using a computer, so hopefully can navigate my way around here.  My question is, how do you find out who a persons birth mother is? Quick rundown...Grandmothers half sister claimed to be my gmums birth mother. I have her birth cert, (England) and it states her mum as her mum, not her half sister. Everyone involved has passed away, so have to do the sleuthing myself. Is there any way of finding out? Thankyou.

What year and County are we talking about - there may be Online Parish Records available ??
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Real mum
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 September 21 04:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Spendlove. Yes, it is the original birth certificate. I haven't  searched for a baptism record as yet. My gmums father is recorded on the birth certificate. I didn't  know if they did dodgy type stuff back then, on birth certificates, in cases like unwed mothers.

Hi Tony. Half sister at the time of my gmums birth is about 12, while my great gmums age was about 33-34.  Other siblings were aged  nearly 3yo and  1 &1/2, at the time.

Thankyou both, for your responses.

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Re: Real mum
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 September 21 04:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Garstonite. The year is 1912, and in Southampton 

Thanks for your reply.

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 September 21 04:47 BST (UK) »
it will be a looonnngg process unless you know the church ?   have a trawl through the parish records for Southampton

https://www.southampton.gov.uk/media/uyrotafe/index_to_church_of_england_parish_registers_tcm63-363628.pdf
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 September 21 04:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Treasure,
 
A 12 year old mother would be a little unusual, but not unheard of.

 I have seen lies told at registration and to the vicar at baptisms in order to save face and to preserve the reputation of unwed daughters.

Sue

Just to clarify also-
Whose daughter was he half sister?
The husband's or the wife's


 
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Re: Real mum
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 September 21 05:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Sparrett. Half sister was the daughter of my grandmums mum, from her first marriage. She was the only child from that marriage.

Thanks for your reply.