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Offline Kiltaglassan

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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 16 September 21 22:15 BST (UK) »

So the earliest birth I found in 1868 was listed at caragologly and then after that the others were at Mount Norris. I think both are still apart of Newry, so still the same area. And with their wedding in Belleeks, I would think that the first 2 kids would be in the same area as well.


Sophia Jane was born at Carrickgallogly townland - https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qxl/
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/fews-lower/loughgilly-lower-fews-portion/belleek/carrickgallogly/

Mountnorris is a small hamlet NW of Newry.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qxm/

From Carrickgallogly following the direction north through Whitecross, Mountnorris is NNE roughly where the B133 text is on the yellow road - approx 6 kms
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5208032#map=13/54.2163/-6.4439

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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #28 on: Friday 17 September 21 00:08 BST (UK) »


Can you please list all the information on this document.

QLD BDM marriage   https://www.familyhistory.bdm.qld.gov.au/
1888/B/12034   BRIGGS William  marr. CAVANAGH Sarah  10 Jan 1888

What is your source for this information -

"..His uncle was a Tailor in Ireland and passed in 1874"

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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #29 on: Friday 17 September 21 00:56 BST (UK) »
What is your source for this information -
"..His uncle was a Tailor in Ireland and passed in 1874"

I believe the information came from a related thread about this family’s Irish roots.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=852328.msg7202697#msg7202697
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)


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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #30 on: Friday 17 September 21 02:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks KG

Wivenhoe - Neale is correct. I had posted in the Irish section about this family and someone had come across Sarah Jane's family (the Forde's) and it was discovered on the death record Sarah's brother died in 1874 and was a tailor. So we surmised that was likely where/how William McKnight learnt his trade.
This thread was originally to help find the ship William arrived on.

As for the wedding certificate details;
10 Jan 1888
William McKnight to Sarah Cavanagh
Presbyterian church of Queensland in Fortitude Valley
William born in Newry, Armagh, Ireland
Sarah born in Kensington, Kent, England
Williams occupation- Tailor
Sarah- domestic
Williams age at last birthday - 22
Sarah - 18
Parents- John McKnight (schoolmaster) and Sarah Jane Forde
John Cavangh (painter) and Jane Ryan
Witnesses were Mary Ann Cavanagh and John Beard
Yourell, McComiskey, Collins, Dawson, Ashton, McKnight, Bilsborough, Riethmuller

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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #31 on: Friday 17 September 21 05:14 BST (UK) »
As has previously been said, your best bet for finding some further clues to his arrival will be William's death certificate. Hopefully it will have what you need recorded. Just bear in mind that the information will be from the informant, so there could be potential errors recorded.
Good luck.
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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #32 on: Friday 17 September 21 05:51 BST (UK) »
Ok, I got the death certificate. I hate not knowing all the details. Here is what it tells me;

94 yrs old at time of passing (1955)

It says he was 25 when he was married - not 22 which was on the marriage certificate!
He was in Australia for 70 years and arrived in Queensland.

Unfortunately no mention of a ship name. But at least I have a more accurate age. It still states Newry, Armagh as place of birth and same parents.

So I am estimating he arrived in Queensland in 1885? 1955 take 70 is 1885... and then he should have been born either 1862 or 63. Which is kind of what I was thinking based on when his parents married.
I am guessing because his wedding was in jan 1888 he was probably turing 26 as well.
I have checked all the William McKnights born in Newry and Armagh during that time period and haven't found the right parents. I guess they just didn't register him, or his sister Annie.
Yourell, McComiskey, Collins, Dawson, Ashton, McKnight, Bilsborough, Riethmuller

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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #33 on: Friday 17 September 21 07:09 BST (UK) »
But they were most likely baptised. I would be trying to find the baptismal registers for the other children (I think you have some) then check earlier on for the older children.
Hopefully something will turn up with his arrival. At least you can look at entries to Queensland a year or so either side of the year estimated from certificate and might see something!
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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #34 on: Friday 17 September 21 07:14 BST (UK) »
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf
Page 82 indicates that you might find relevant record at paid site as follows:
https://www.rootsireland.ie/ifhf/search.php
This shows 22 records for a William McKnight born around 1862 (+/-5yrs).
Might be worth looking at.

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Re: Help with finding a passenger list record
« Reply #35 on: Friday 17 September 21 07:16 BST (UK) »
I see you can narrow it to county, so I did for Down but 0 show up.