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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 September 21 12:59 BST (UK) »
1861 Newington
RG09/335 f139 p28
James Yeoman 25 Wheelwright born Canterbury, Kent
Mary Ann 21 born Newington, Surrey
Edward 2 months born Newington, Surrey
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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 September 21 13:00 BST (UK) »
Marriage June qtr 1860 
Brewer    Mary Ann Perry       
Yeoman    James       
Bermondsey    1d   56
Ancestry have the image for this marriage


ADDED 1871 census James is born Canterbury, Kent the rest of the family are born Newington, Surrey
RG10 Piece 70 Folio 87 page 3
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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 September 21 13:13 BST (UK) »
Tree on Ancestry has the parents of Mary Ann (wife of James Yeoman) as George Brewer and Margaret Maria Winders
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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 12 September 21 09:52 BST (UK) »
It would seem that with all this confusing as the only information that I ,to go on is on the Marriage certificate printout from BDM from 1882  Mary Ann Yeoman's parents are James & Mary Ann Yeoman nee Winders  , and so armed with that I did  a search of any family that arrived in Canterbury New Zealand and found only one group  before 1882  and this was on the shipping records  dated 14.7.1874  as for any other names that are mentioned I am wondering if some how there is a name change completely as if to make it hard for anyone to do research


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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 12 September 21 10:40 BST (UK) »
As a check It might be useful to buy one of the births i listed in Reply#7.

It could be an error on Mary Ann’s marriage. Depending on who was answering the question.

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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 12 September 21 11:48 BST (UK) »
Hi MCKHA489

1882 marriage between Mary Ann Yeoman and Charles Fenton at Christchurch

The only information that I have on Parents name are via the marriage certificate printout from BDM NZ from 1882 and on the the maiden name of the mother is given as Mary Ann Winders, but the other information from #7 looks like them, not sure if the Original Certificate will have all details on it

If these are the same people they must have shorten their surnames and their Christian names  , which way does a person navigate

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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 September 21 12:04 BST (UK) »
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from #7 looks like them, not sure if the Original Certificate will have all details on it

The Print out is always the best to get.


Post 1875 - Registration of Births and Deaths Act 1875 (Dated 12 October 1875)
Local number
Child

When and where born
Name of child and whether present or not (child was with parent at time of registration)
Sex
Father

Name and surname
Rank or profession
Age
Birthplace
Mother

Name and maiden surname
Age
Birthplace
Parents

When and where married
Informant

Signature
Description
Residence
If entry is a correction of a former entry

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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 September 21 12:23 BST (UK) »
Arthur Edward Fenton’s attestation names his mother as Mrs Mary Ann Swan.


https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE19123254

 I cannot see a marriage to Mr Swan.  Did she marry someone else in between?

When Alfred died just Mary Ann Swan named in notice,

Added.. found it, not under Fenton.

1895/3724   Mary Ann   Yeoman   Robert   Swann

So, i wonder if she said anything differently on that marriage reg.

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Re: James Yeoman & Mary Ann Winders from Kent Yorkshire UK
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 September 21 13:23 BST (UK) »
I am not certain as when I checked the details of what you found  Alfred Edward Fenton died in 1902 aged 42 going by the children of Mary Ann Swann there are none listed , even checking the name Alfred Edward Fenton , nothing shows up, as being born in NZ

Mary Ann Yeoman  Married in 1882 to Charles Fenton
Mary Ann Fenton married a Robert Swann in  1895

Either this woman was a quick Divorce from her husbands and remarried just as quick