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Re: Charles henry briggs.
« Reply #108 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 04:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sparrett, another interesting item.

Majm, I had a quick look on Trove for the paylists but can't see where to find it. Could you give me a more detailed place to search please?

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« Reply #109 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 04:36 BST (UK) »
Hi sandie,
I put this at the foot of my last reply as an afterthought.

Unless maybe John and Ann BRYANT both went together to Sydney, where John had been born< and that is where he died??

BRYANT John
604/1861
Father WIilliam
Mother Elizabeth
SYDNEY
   
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« Reply #110 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 04:47 BST (UK) »
Hi sandie,
I put this at the foot of my last reply as an afterthought.

Unless maybe John and Ann BRYANT both went together to Sydney, where John had been born< and that is where he died??

BRYANT John
604/1861
Father WIilliam
Mother Elizabeth
SYDNEY
 

Maybe not. :(

Some additional information on Ancestry has the above man with a birthdate of 1834.
Lived at Crown St. Labourer aged 27. Buried Camperdown
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« Reply #111 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 05:02 BST (UK) »
https://trove.nla.gov.au/ then select click on ALL CATEGORIES and from there, click on Diaries,Letters and Archives. (so you are not looking at Newspapers & Gazettes, but at a different section of trove).

You are seeking the digitised image of reel 3917 of the Australian Joint Copy Project  :) https://www.nla.gov.au/using-library/research-tools-and-resources/australian-joint-copying-project

So in a general sense, you are looking for the Musters and Pay Lists  https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-728688653  ... there are several hundred reels in that set.  Those reels of film have now been digitised.

You need quiet time, and carefully read the various sets of tables of contents.

https://www.bda-online.org.au/files/MR16_Military.pdf 

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« Reply #112 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 05:11 BST (UK) »
:D
You may have many hurdles to sort back further than John SMITH, soldier,  but from a quick armchair sweep of indexes I can see at least one ‘candidate’ may be:
 :) Private John SMITH, 3rd Regiment of Foot, 4th & 5th Company, arrived per the Guildford, NSW 25 December 1822. 
 :) Was serving at Fort Dundas, Melville Island departing Sydney on the Countess of Hardcourt 24 August 1824, returning as part of a detachment to NSW some time between 1 November 1824 and 30 April 1825, sick. and was stationed on the sub-continent, at Calcutta from January 1827 to October 1827. 
 :) :) :) See the NSW Col Sec Papers Index re this soldier, and also under the heading ‘Melville Island’.    https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/colonial-secretarys-papers 

A tad further armchair looking :
 :) It seems that a chap named John SMITH originally served in The Buffs, after enlisting at Cork in Ireland for 14 years. 
 :) When the Buffs tour of duty in NSW was concluding, he transferred to the 39th Regiment, into Company 9 and he took his discharge with gratuity in Sydney 30 June 1832.  May I suggest:
Paylists etc should be available via the AJCP see   https://www.nla.gov.au/using-library/research-tools-and-resources/australian-joint-copying-project   Paylists can be useful in determining the marital status and number of children of the soldier based on the pay rate changes etc.  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=829521.0

Also Biographical Database of Australia is a not for profit ongoing indexing project; there is a nominal annual subscription of $38, but you can look at the indexes without any subscription expenses.    https://www.bda-online.org.au/   


I have not looked for Mrs Sarah SMITH (wife of John) or for Ann SMITH born circa 1829, Penrith NSW, but it seems likely to me that Ann would not have been the eldest child of Sarah and John SMITH.  Perhaps they will be listed as a family in the 1828 NSW Census?  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=810812.0

As yet, I cannot see any connection between this Ann who married Frederick RICE and the lass who entered the Benevolent Society’s facilities in 1863. 
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Re: Charles henry briggs.
« Reply #113 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 05:29 BST (UK) »
Asylums outside of Sydney ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenmore_Asylum  built in   1879. ADD Land acquired in 1879.

Re the Veterans
YES, if they took their discharge in NSW or VDL rather than returning to Britain to take it there, then they were eligible for Land Grants in NSW or VDL.   

It is explained in the reliable book that is NOT here with me, but it is safe in the bookcase in our home.   I have mentioned this book on other threads at RChat over the years, for example:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=4653362;topic=616581.0;last_msg=4654528


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« Reply #114 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 05:46 BST (UK) »
Sydney Sands Directories
1858-9
John William SMITH, painter, South Head Road, Paddington.

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Re: Charles henry briggs.
« Reply #115 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 05:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you once again for fantastic help and links.
I've just received the birth transcription for George Henry Brown 17 Mar 1865. Son of Ann Smith and Simon Brown.
Ann is listed as Ann Frances late Briggs formerly Smith.  Age 33.
Informant.... Ann Frances (her mark) Brown, mother, Bland.
 What does the word Bland mean?


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Re: Charles henry briggs.
« Reply #116 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 06:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
It is a bit hard to know exactly what you are looking at unless you type it up properly including the headings of each column.

But I suspect the word might be Blank.

The transcriber is informing you that there is no text entered in the space.

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