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Re: Charles henry briggs.
« Reply #117 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 06:27 BST (UK) »
Registration number   08691
Date of Birth              17 Mar 1865
Birth Place                 Verner St, Goulburn
Name                        George Henry
Sex                           Male
Father                       Simon Brown
Occupation                    Labourer
Father's Age                  54
Father's Birthplace         Suffolk
Date of Marriage            4 Jul 1864
Place                            Gunning
Previous Issue               Not Listed
Mother Maiden Name     Ann Frances Late Briggs Formerly Smith
Mother's Age                 33
Mother's Birthplace        Penrith, N.S.W.
Informant                      Ann Frances (her x mark) Brown, Mother, Bland
Accoucheur                    R.Waugh
Nurse and/or Witness     Mrs Makin
Registered                     3 Apr 1865,  Goulburn
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« Reply #118 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 06:56 BST (UK) »
I think the column heading for informant has 3 requests within in it.

Signature-  filled

Description-filled

Residence-


The "blank" refers to   residence which is not given.

JM will have it more accurately ;D

OR it refers to the shire of Bland in NSW

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« Reply #119 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 07:20 BST (UK) »
Yes,  the informant was recorded as Ann Frances BROWN, (she signed with her X mark) and she stated she was the baby's MOTHER and that her usual address was BLAND.   

Bland (the locality) still exists, and it is about 20 miles south of Cragabal. 
(I reckon thats about 32 kms)   
Cragabal is west of Grenfell.
   
Bland is about 30 miles east of West Wyalong.  (I reckon thats about 50 kms) 

 ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: Charles henry briggs.
« Reply #120 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 07:29 BST (UK) »
Seems a long way from where the child was born.
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« Reply #121 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 07:42 BST (UK) »
Yes, exactly so Sue,  especially when you consider the terrain and mode of transport available in that era ... and the possibility of bushrangers ...  The Weddin Mountains were Ben Hall hide-outs.   He was killed by NSW police in May 1865.   

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« Reply #122 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 07:51 BST (UK) »
Baby born in Goulburn, and birth registered in Goulburn.   Mother's usual address was Bland.  Quite possibly mother was residing in Goulburn simply because to travel to Bland would have required travelling via the Mail Coach.  And the Mail coach was often a target for Bushrangers.   Goulburn was a larger township, not focused on gold mining, but on agricultural pursuits. Whereas up around Grenfell and Forbes there were several gold rushes.   In the 1860s the gold from the western goldfields was transferred to Sydney via the Gold Escort coaches, which went via Bathurst and not via Goulburn.   :D  Goulburn was a safer haven for families not associated with gold ventures. 

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Re: Charles henry briggs.
« Reply #123 on: Wednesday 22 September 21 23:35 BST (UK) »
Re the John SMITH chap, pensioned soldier - as husband of Sarah, and father of Ann and John William SMITH ... and therefore the possible maternal grandfather of Charles Henry BRIGGS of the topic heading.   :D  :D  :D

Here is live link to the National Library of Australia's digitised image of the AJCP reel 3917 :  https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/235295680

 
New South Wales Royal Veterans, June 1826 to June 1832, (File 11230. AJCP Reel No: 3917), (from Records of the War Office (as filmed by the AJCP)) 


Australian Joint Copying Project WO
Guide to the Records of the War Office (as filmed by the AJCP)
Records of other administrative departments of the War Office (Returns) (Fonds WO) / Muster Books and Pay Lists. General (Series WO 12) / Veterans (Subseries (Piece 11230))

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May well be worthwhile looking through the following reels too...
https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/235295839   
New South Wales Veteran Co., 1826 to 1830, (File 2243. AJCP Reel No: 1303),

https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/235295740?  NSW Corps Registers New South Wales, 1828, (File 2312. AJCP Reel No: 914), (from Records of the War Office (as filmed by the AJCP))

https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/235295737?s NSW Corps 1825  file 309. AJCP Reel  914



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Re: Charles henry briggs.
« Reply #124 on: Thursday 23 September 21 02:43 BST (UK) »
Some time ago I was given a copy of a John Smith discharge papers from the army. It's difficult to read but says he served in the army for 24 years and 245 days.
 
It looks like 30th Reg of Foot (11 yrs,30 days) and 60th Reg of Foot (1 yr,92 days) as well as somewhere else for 5 years and what looks like Royal N.S.W.... 3 yrs, 153 days.
It's dated 22 Aug 1829.
There's another page that I can't read and a copy of a long list of names. it could be length of service or pay, I can't figure it out yet.
I also have a copy of soldiers on board ship Orpheus in 1826 with the name John Smith.

Am I correct in thinking that the first Veteran's Corps was formed in England and disbanded here in the colony in the 1820's and a second Veteran's Corps was formed later in the 1820's and the disbanded early 1830's.





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« Reply #125 on: Thursday 23 September 21 03:32 BST (UK) »
Some time ago I was given a copy of a John Smith discharge papers from the army. It's difficult to read but says he served in the army for 24 years and 245 days.
 
It looks like 30th Reg of Foot (11 yrs,30 days) and 60th Reg of Foot (1 yr,92 days) as well as somewhere else for 5 years and what looks like Royal N.S.W.... 3 yrs, 153 days.
It's dated 22 Aug 1829.
There's another page that I can't read and a copy of a long list of names. it could be length of service or pay, I can' figure it out yet.
I also have a copy of soldiers on board ship Orpheus in 1826 with the name John Smith.

Am I correct in thinking that the first Veteran's Corps was formed in England and disbanded here in the colony in the 1820's and a second Veteran's Corps was formed later in the 1820's and the disbanded early 1830's.


Can you please consider scanning those pages and then taking a snip of the section giving you the  Royal N.S.W. Veteran Corp 3 years 153 days, and the date 22 August 1829.

Mr Google will likely help you with info on the NSW Veterans Corps.    The BDA website is also very helpful and even without expecting you to sign in, you can easily read about their sources. 
https://www.bda-online.org.au/sources/
Scrolling through to their sources to their heading Military can help you too and then reading through the headings there, and clicking on their option "view"against those headings can be great too ...  for example:
https://www.bda-online.org.au/files/MR11_Military.pdf
https://www.bda-online.org.au/files/MR16_Military.pdf
Their annual subscription is $38.00

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