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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 12 September 21 18:42 BST (UK) »
Also, I do not think that John Hutton's birthplace is showing as Edinburgh  :-\ Can this be checked too?

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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 September 21 20:36 BST (UK) »
The 1911 Census says he was born in Renfrewshire, a blacksmith operating a coalcutter.

In 1846 an Alexander Hutton (Blacksmith) married a Margaret Telfer in Abbey (Neilston).

In 1861 Census the family is in Abbey (Alexander 46) John is listed as 11 birthplace Renfrew plus a many other children.

There is no birth in OPR's for a any of the children. They could have been baptized in another church or did not bother.

I this your John?  Probably but only his marriage or death will verify this.

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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 12 September 21 20:39 BST (UK) »
That sounds more likely, Don  ;)

Did you note where son David was born? Maybe Lanarkshire, Motherwell I thought?

John Hutton died in Belfast in 1915. His age is given as 60...so likely lost a few years along the way...

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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 12 September 21 20:42 BST (UK) »
From the 1911 entry, they showed as married around 27 years. So circa 1883. Can't see the marriage as yet...nor births in Ireland for their children up to Janet's birth there c.1900-1.

Children for them so far:

Christina b. 1891
Helen b. 1893
John b. 1895
Samuel b. 1898
Janet b. 1901
David b. 1903

All birth years approx as no birth certs found yet for them. So we have 6 names from the 9 living children and two more who died young.

Monica
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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 12 September 21 20:50 BST (UK) »
Some others have John Hutton born 1850 as having married and died young www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/john-hutton-24-2dt7hh

Would need to be checked on Scotlands People as always.

Added: I cannot see a corresponding death for this John on SP so far. Some further details on this family here www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/K2TK-HFV

Janet Stark/Hutton is showing as widowed in 1881 but married in 1891. If the same John Hutton, could he have left her and started a new life with Margaret McIntyre? Hard to say really without further details.

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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 12 September 21 21:25 BST (UK) »
From the Motherwell Times 6 November 1908, there is mention of a death of Louisa, daughter of John Telfer Hutton.

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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 September 21 21:29 BST (UK) »
Louisa Hutton was 8 at the time of her death in January 1908. Please note that her mother Margaret is showing with the maiden name of HAMILTON on this document.

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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 September 21 22:08 BST (UK) »
Just additional details which I think make the possibility that John, son of Alexander Hutton and Margaret Telfer and husband of Janet Stark may be the same John Telfer Hutton 'married' to Margaret Hamilton/Hamill...

Agnes, daughter of John Hutton and Janet Stark was born in 1874 in Coatbridge Lanarkshire. She married in 1899 in Kirkintilloch, Dumbartonshire to John Rutherford. Agnes gave her father's details as John Telfer Hutton, Blacksmith (not showing as deceased). She named her first born son b. in 1899 John Telfer Hutton Rutherford.

I thought that after Janet Stark Hutton died in 1909, John and Margaret may have married legally (assuming my guesses are correct  ::)) but no sign as yet of a marriage.

Jury still out as to how their children's births were registered in Ireland.

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Re: Huttons of greenside Edinburgh
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 September 21 23:02 BST (UK) »
On that 1911 census which is very blurry, it looks as if the youngest David, aged 8 is born in Lanarkshire - then I can't make out the place name. I think it is Motherwell too.
I wonder if he is registered under his mother's name, HAMILTON, and not HUTTON?
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