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Re: Grenadier Guards 1900-1920 abt
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 September 21 10:55 BST (UK) »
Ms Jebber

Thank you for web link to GG. It should or could be the answer but wonít link and load. Can you please check web address you gave for Ďfind an ancestorí please as nothing happens through the one that you gave me!

Alan

Sorry, disregard  the link I gave you, you get to the same page via the link KGarrad gave you. It wonít give you information on your man only plenty about the GGs if you explore the links.

You will have to resort to an application to the MOD in the usual way. Provide date if birth, then no need for Regimental number.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,† Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Grenadier Guards 1900-1920 abt
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 September 21 11:29 BST (UK) »
To ShaunJ
Yes, but lack of Workhouse Records means we cannot identify the man buried at Worplesdon though by coincidence, this was the Baker family home at the time.

Thank you for your thoughts. One of those trees would have been mine created especially to see what hints there were for WAB, born 1882. Like where was he in 1901 (not with his Mother); or in 1911 (ditto); married?; and not on 1939 Reg using his birthdate. So the GG record would be a clue as to him not being in the Workhouse! Remember he had no named father and it was not his Motherís first Ďbaseí child - to the same man?

That is the conundrum. The death cert says he died in the Guildford Workhouse in 1900 and here, if the same man, he is in the GG in 1901. I have researched EVERY birth/death for every William Baker in Surrey (in and around), with and without the name, Arthur.

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Re: Grenadier Guards 1900-1920 abt
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 September 21 11:53 BST (UK) »
Ms Jebber

How sad. Thought you had given me the short cut and avoiding MOD route.

I was obviously hoping to avoid the MOD route, as it can take 12 months when we donít even know if it is our man. And may never know? Maybe the 1921 Census will be out before they answer (if he was still alive?)? Thanks for your help. Always appreciated. :)


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« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 September 21 12:42 BST (UK) »
I Think many of us are waiting for the 1921 census to solve a problem, I know I am. I hope it helps you, so Good Luck.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,† Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Grenadier Guards 1900-1920 abt
« Reply #13 on: Monday 13 September 21 13:04 BST (UK) »
The National Army Museum appears to have the Grenadier Guards archive now: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/9e20fa14-38a3-42a6-a926-b77b4bff3818
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Re: Grenadier Guards 1900-1920 abt
« Reply #14 on: Monday 13 September 21 17:28 BST (UK) »
Ms Jebber
Just to confirm, please
Are you saying anyone who served before 1920 will NOT appear in MoD records. So my man, if he is that, doubtfully served after WWI, if he survived when he would be 40 ish. Just checking if itís worth sending off for his service record.

So, if MoD donít have his records, who has early GG records.

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 13 September 21 18:24 BST (UK) »
No, what I said was, that anyone still serving AFTER 1920, then their records WOULD  be with the MOD. I said that because we donít know when your man left the army.

I also said I believed  that the Guards held their own records. KGarrad later pointed out, the Grenadier Guards  had now transferred all records to the MOD.

ShaunJ then added that the Guards  Archive has been transferred to the National Army Museum. From what can see in the link Shaun gave, that doesnít appear to include the menís individual records, I could be wrong

Itís just your misfortune that your man was in a Guards Regiment, so locating the records are not so straightforward

So on the assumption that they are with the MOD, you will have to apply in the normal way, providing his date of birth.

I sorry, I canít think of anything else to suggest.
 
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,† Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.