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Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« on: Thursday 16 September 21 11:28 BST (UK) »
Ann Orbell born Barrow 1869 married Elias Drake in 1891.

I am looking for the parents of Ann, so far I have only found her living with her Grandparents William and Susannah in Lackford.
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Re: Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 September 21 11:42 BST (UK) »
Could this be her birth registration
ORBELL, ANN    (no mothers maiden name listed so probably illegitimate)
GRO Reference: 1868  Sept Quarter in THINGOE  Volume 04A  Page 471
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Re: Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 September 21 11:43 BST (UK) »
Baptism at Barrow 6 Sep 1868 names her mother as Sarah, no father listed
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Re: Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 September 21 11:47 BST (UK) »
Redboxed but adding it anyway


I am looking for the parents of Ann, so far I have only found her living with her Grandparents William and Susannah in Lackford.
Thank you.

You didn’t say but presume that was 1881.   


William and Susannah are at Brook Cottage, he is an Ag Lab
On the previous page at Brook Farm is a servant, Rose Orbell age 16 b Barrow.

Seems like a possibility for her

ORBELL, ROSE  JANE     WISEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1865  M Quarter in THINGOE  Volume 04A  Page 498
 
But in 1871 Rose J is with William and Susannah image 6 and there is a daughter Ann age 2. 
Suspect that is your Ann.
So she is a daughter in 1871 and a granddaughter in 1881.


What did Ann say on her marriage about her father?


There is this birth

ORBELL, ANN       - 
GRO Reference: 1868  S Quarter in THINGOE  Volume 04A  Page 471

Ie no mothers maiden name, so illegitimate? 


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Re: Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 September 21 11:52 BST (UK) »
Bury and Norwich Post 17 November 1868

Stephen Bond, labourer of Dalham named as father by Sarah Orbell, he was ordered to pay Sarah 1s 6d per week, Plus costs. 

ADDED That is if it is the same Sarah Orbell
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Re: Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 September 21 12:04 BST (UK) »
Another possibility
Bury and Norwich Post 23 November 1869
Affiliation order Robert Smith of Risby, labourer also ordered to pay 1s 6d a week to Sarah Orbell of Risby (plus costs).

The other newspaper article did not mention a place of abode for that Sarah
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Re: Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 September 21 13:15 BST (UK) »
The Sarah Orbell in Risby is a different Sarah.

William and Susannah had a dau. Sarah b.1846 Barrow i.e. mother of Ann.

Sarah Orbell married James Woods Mar.qtr.1871 Thingoe and they are living in Barrow 1871 with 1month old daughter.  Marriage took place 11/2/1871 Barrow so cutting things fine!!  Baby daughter Jane Elizabeth baptised 10/3/1871 Barrow.

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Re: Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 September 21 14:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you all the fact that there is no Fathers name is probably why I could  not find anything.
The Ann that you all have found - is she the same Ann that married Elias Drake?

Great help on what you have given me - thank you again.

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Re: Ann Orbell married Elias Drake
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 September 21 18:51 BST (UK) »
The Ann Orbell who married Elias Drake was bc.1869 Barrow.    The only Ann born in Barrow at this time was the dau. of Sarah, granddaughter of William and Susannah (as you identified yourself at the outset).

Details of the 1891 marriage certificate not available online.

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